DCP offers a very qualified private viewing of the Interpreter’s finances

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Marcus wrote:
Sun Feb 08, 2026 8:08 pm
Speaking of creative accounting, check out the headliners when Cruise Lady, a.k.a. Bountiful Travel 'collaborates' with the Interpreter Foundation:
Church History and Great Britain with the Interpreter Foundation
14-Day Land Tour
05/05/2026 - 05/19/2026

Join local Blue Badge Guide and British Church historian, Peter Fagg, as well as Daniel Peterson and Kris Frederickson, from the Interpreter Foundation, on a tour that deep dives into the the early history of Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in England and the contributions of reformers and martyrs.
And
Journeys of Paul Cruise
11-Night Cruise
04/12/2027 - 04/23/2027

Join Steve Densley, Daniel Peterson and the Interpreter Foundation for the ultimate Journeys of Paul cruise.
I noticed that Peterson was careful to say he is never 'paid' for these headliner activities, he only has his air travel, lodging, food, and other trip expenses paid for himself.

He conveniently neglected to mention, although he has admitted it in the past, that his wife goes on these working vacations with him, and all of her expenses are paid also. So, he takes his headlining fee in the form of a reservation for his wife? The cost of the 2026 trip is almost $6000, not including airfare, meals not included in trip, and other expenses, which they cover for Peterson and his wife, based on past information he has revealed. So, a trip that would cost somewhere around $15,000 for Mr and Mrs Peterson is now fully paid for, in exchange for his headliner services. Take out Peterson's expenses, and the rest is creatively accounted for by Peterson as "I'm never paid for my services on these trips." Right...
And his (non-)response:
As to Bountiful Travel -- Cruise Lady no longer exists because, two or three years ago, its proprietor sold it and retired -- their financial decisions are purely commercial and are made by them quite independently of the Interpreter Foundation. Interpreter donations aren't transferred to Bountiful Travel. If the owners of Bountiful Travel decide that having me accompany a tour is worthwhile to them, that (for whatever reason) it makes business sense, that decision is entirely theirs....
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At last, his confession
Redbrick Filmworks has paid my airfare, my lodging, and my food for the project's four-to-six-day filming expeditions (five or six of them, thus far), just as it does for the other two co-hosts and for the three members of the film crew, and just as it has apparently always done (and just as other comparable film companies evidently always do) for their away film shoots.
So the money moves from Interpreter to Red Brick Films, and in return Red Brick Films fund his travel, lodgings, meals etc. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement. You can see now why the Afore has persisted with film making projects despite their unqualified failure rate. Is it any wonder that both he and Red Brick Films wants the Brigham project to go on for another 18 months?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Sun Feb 08, 2026 6:52 pm
Meanwhile, there are still other questions that haven't been answered. What about the Not By Bread Alone project? Who paid the travel expenses for *that*? Interpreter? Redbrick Filmworks? Was the Interpreter personnel paying for flights to Africa out of their own pocket?
The Afore has not yet responded to this question.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Feb 09, 2026 8:32 am
At last, his confession
Redbrick Filmworks has paid my airfare, my lodging, and my food for the project's four-to-six-day filming expeditions (five or six of them, thus far), just as it does for the other two co-hosts and for the three members of the film crew, and just as it has apparently always done (and just as other comparable film companies evidently always do) for their away film shoots.
So the money moves from Interpreter to Red Brick Films, and in return Red Brick Films fund his travel, lodgings, meals etc. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement. You can see now why the Afore has persisted with film making projects despite their unqualified failure rate. Is it any wonder that both he and Red Brick Films wants the Brigham project to go on for another 18 months?
Sounds like a stipend or a retirement subsidy plan.
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Limnor wrote:
Mon Feb 09, 2026 12:31 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Feb 09, 2026 8:32 am
At last, his confession So the money moves from Interpreter to Red Brick Films, and in return Red Brick Films fund his travel, lodgings, meals etc. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement. You can see now why the Afore has persisted with film making projects despite their unqualified failure rate. Is it any wonder that both he and Red Brick Films wants the Brigham project to go on for another 18 months?
Sounds like a stipend or a retirement subsidy plan.
I wonder how much money the people of Red Brick Films have received from Interpreter since the first movie project "Witnesses" was conceived in 2018/2019? Does Red Brick Films publish transparent financial accounts detailing their income streams? As I understand it, Redbrick Filmworks (as Peterson calls it) is not a registered corporate entity, but the name for a small group of his friends (Russ Richins, Mark Goodman, and James Jordan) who do film making. Do they file accounts? It doesn't look like it. The difference in expenditure for Interpreter between 2022 and 2023 was c$1.5 million - and that's only 1 year, of 1 movie. Peterson has probably channelled >$5 million into Redbrick Filmworks by now. I assume they provide Peterson with some kind of accounting for how the money is spent?
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Feb 08, 2026 9:38 pm
Marcus wrote:wherein he knows his truth-pretzeling is so obvious that it guarantees he will get talked about?
I'd say absolutely. This is more fishing to keep the flame of controversy burning. I seem to recall there was a famous architect fond of boasting he'd never worked a day in his life. Well, clearly he had. That's all he did was work. But if you do what you love, then some feel it doesn't count as "work". In that situation, one could say they get "paid to play." I find it enviable. I wish I was good enough at the things I like to do during my spare time that it afforded me the means to do such things in style and with peace of focus.

If what a person loves to do is travel, eat, stay in nice accommodations, socialize with friends and important people, and get buttered up by acolytes, then money or "payment" is nothing but a intermediary mechanism to the final goal and hardly worth mentioning. For some, money is an end in itself, but for most people, it's a means to an end, as is the case here. Whether the final good was delivered directly or first passes through currency hardly matters.

There should be no problem here. If a person likes getting out into the world and dining while creating transparent propaganda and doing speaking events that don't require much preparation, then so be it. All the better, I would think. I don't like travelling that much but I'm sure I might do something similar myself if I had the chance. No judgment from me at all.

The problem might be a matter of self-judgment. Most would boast of their "paid to play" lifestyle. What gives? Well, the problem seems to be that the propaganda one is "comped" for contains central themes about lifestyles. For instance, the Book of Mormon says quite a lot about preachers who "speak smooth things" unto the people -- tell them what they want to hear. And resources allotted to propping up lifestyles for such people. The narrative holds these as wicked people. In contrast are those who must sacrifice. They must do things they don't want to do, like Alma or Amulek, speak things that people don't want to hear. Suffer material hardships and persecution. King Mosiah, though a king, labored with his own hands along with his people.

And so, by the narrative of the Book of Mormon, if there are people who spend their days communicating religious ideas to the public, you can pick out the good ones by their sacrifice, and the bad ones by their easy circumstances. If a Book of Mormon character is "paid to play" in the capacity of defending religion, then such character is trading in false religion and lies. We might object and say the Book of Mormon is impractical. You don't need to convince me. Even the brethren seem to allow loopholes. For instance, Steve Young was told not to go on a mission because he could do more for the Church as a football star. In this rare case, the teacher of righteousness gets paid to play and is under no condemnation. I mean, the Book of Mormon understands comparative advantage, right? If a person has a gift for smooth speaking and motivates people to righteousness then why not allow the preaching to be done by the low-cost producer? Why force such a person to go on a normal mission that requires drudgery, financing one's own way, and persecution?

It makes total sense to me, please don't shoot the messenger, I'm just pointing out that the Book of Mormon says otherwise, and if your smooth speaking enables your lifestyle of leisure, specifically in terms of travelling and speaking, then your only option is to be an anti-Christ.

I would think there would be a massive incentive to control the narrative about one's activities. Presenting them as real sacrifice and resulting in real persecution rather than a "paid to play" bonanza. Otherwise one cuts off the branch upon which he was sitting. Yeah, that's the fundamental tension, but like I said, one way out is for a person to deflect from the tension and point to Steve Young and the truths of David Ricardo. If one's conscience forbids that route, I suppose that is a mark of character that counts for something that I can respect. It does result in lots of back-and-forth like this, however.
This is a perceptive analysis, Dr. Robbers. It would explain the lamentations about having to eat microwaved Papa John's in a third-rate Iowa motel, and whatnot. Of course, *legitimate* sacrifice in this case would need to be something like serving a senior mission. But we all know that's never going to happen--it would cut too much into the travel and dining itinerary.
"If, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
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I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Feb 09, 2026 1:56 pm
Limnor wrote:
Mon Feb 09, 2026 12:31 pm
Sounds like a stipend or a retirement subsidy plan.
I wonder how much money the people of Red Brick Films have received from Interpreter since the first movie project "Witnesses" was conceived in 2018/2019? Does Red Brick Films publish transparent financial accounts detailing their income streams? As I understand it, Redbrick Filmworks (as Peterson calls it) is not a registered corporate entity, but the name for a small group of his friends (Russ Richins, Mark Goodman, and James Jordan) who do film making. Do they file accounts? It doesn't look like it. The difference in expenditure for Interpreter between 2022 and 2023 was c$1.5 million - and that's only 1 year, of 1 movie. Peterson has probably channelled >$5 million into Redbrick Filmworks by now. I assume they provide Peterson with some kind of accounting for how the money is spent?
Back in the early days when they were still trying to pull together the plans for Witnesses, the Interpreter President publicly vowed to make all the financial details of the filmmaking totally "transparent." That turned out to be not true. Not only that, but Redbrick--whose entire filmography seems to consist of Interpreter film projects--has become a kind of convenient scapegoat for Interpreter. Comments shut down on the YouTube videos for Bowdlerizing Brigham? Oh, that's completely the filmmakers' fault! Free travel, dining, and lodging for Interpreter's President? Nope! Interpreter didn't have anything to do with that, either--that was all Redbrick's doing! Awfully convenient, isn't it?
"If, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Mon Feb 09, 2026 5:50 pm
Back in the early days when they were still trying to pull together the plans for Witnesses, the Interpreter President publicly vowed to make all the financial details of the filmmaking totally "transparent." That turned out to be not true.

Kind of like DJT promising to release his personal tax records which he never did. It sure seems like DCP & DJT are two peas in a pod, I'd say.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:
Mon Feb 09, 2026 5:50 pm
I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Feb 09, 2026 1:56 pm
I wonder how much money the people of Red Brick Films have received from Interpreter since the first movie project "Witnesses" was conceived in 2018/2019? Does Red Brick Films publish transparent financial accounts detailing their income streams? As I understand it, Redbrick Filmworks (as Peterson calls it) is not a registered corporate entity, but the name for a small group of his friends (Russ Richins, Mark Goodman, and James Jordan) who do film making. Do they file accounts? It doesn't look like it. The difference in expenditure for Interpreter between 2022 and 2023 was c$1.5 million - and that's only 1 year, of 1 movie. Peterson has probably channelled >$5 million into Redbrick Filmworks by now. I assume they provide Peterson with some kind of accounting for how the money is spent?
Back in the early days when they were still trying to pull together the plans for Witnesses, the Interpreter President publicly vowed to make all the financial details of the filmmaking totally "transparent." That turned out to be not true. Not only that, but Redbrick--whose entire filmography seems to consist of Interpreter film projects--has become a kind of convenient scapegoat for Interpreter. Comments shut down on the YouTube videos for Bowdlerizing Brigham? Oh, that's completely the filmmakers' fault! Free travel, dining, and lodging for Interpreter's President? Nope! Interpreter didn't have anything to do with that, either--that was all Redbrick's doing! Awfully convenient, isn't it?
Interestingly a production company called Red Granite Pictures was a real Hollywood film production company founded in 2010. On the surface, it was legit: offices, staff, A-list actors, big releases. Behind the scenes, it was used as a vehicle to move and spend illegally obtained money from Malaysia’s 1MDB sovereign wealth fund, one of the largest financial frauds ever uncovered. One of the films they produced as cover for their pilfering of sovereign funds was a tale about one individuals excesses (and I’m not making this up). You would know it as The Wolf Of Wall Street.
Red Granite Pictures was an American film production and distribution company, co-founded by Riza Aziz and Joey McFarland in 2010.[1] Its productions included The Wolf of Wall Street and Dumb and Dumber To. It was dissolved in 2018 after being implicated in the 1Malaysia Development Berhad corruption scandal, having been financially backed by the scandal's key figure, Jho Low.
The potential parallels are remarkable…
The alleged use of the stolen funds is detailed in the book Billion Dollar Whale by Tom Wright and Bradley Hope. In 2016, the FBI issued subpoenas to several past and present employees of the company in regard to allegations that US$155 million was diverted from 1MDB to help finance the 2013 film The Wolf of Wall Street, where Jho Low had been given "Special Thanks" in the credits.
Had Peterson not reneged on his repeated promise to make public the financial accounting it would have prevented the appearance of being a multi million dollar scam.
Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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Shulem wrote:
Mon Feb 09, 2026 6:32 pm
Doctor Scratch wrote:
Mon Feb 09, 2026 5:50 pm
Back in the early days when they were still trying to pull together the plans for Witnesses, the Interpreter President publicly vowed to make all the financial details of the filmmaking totally "transparent." That turned out to be not true.
Kind of like DJT promising to release his personal tax records which he never did. It sure seems like DCP & DJT are two peas in a pod, I'd say.
To be fair, DCP has disavowed supporting Trump at all. I tip my hat to him for that. Now what with the Epstein files, oh American politics is getting juicier by the day!!!
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