LDS Church and "Mormon"

[Dwight]

Looking at the lawsuit it isn't K&M lawyers, probably due to the area of trademark law.

I am a little into the Inside Out YouTube channel's livestream from yesterday. About 14 minutes in one of them brought up the point that this lawsuit opens the church up for discovery. That just might be reason enough to donate to the legal defense fund, all the Mormon is a victory for Satan stuff, apostle meeting minutes, directions, memos. Perhaps the church will reconsider when they get the list of items for discovery they need to produce. Since it would be entirely relevant to defending a trademark case to use the defense that the church effectively and explicitly from the president rejected the name Mormon.

[MsJack]

Looking at the lawsuit it isn't K&M lawyers, probably due to the area of trademark law.

Dehlin had previously said the C&D came from K&M, so I assumed they filed the lawsuit, but apparently it was a different firm.

I stand by my comparison of K&M to Wolfram & Hart just the same.

[Dwight]

That would make sense. I assumed so too until reading the lawyers at the top of the filing.

[msnobody]

Just became a donor to the legal defense fund. I was thinking today about my past 24 years of interacting with people within/out of Mormonism, and so many discussion boards, ministries, etc. contained the word “Mormon,” not to mention those people I know who have left the church, but still consider themselves to be Mormons. Hopefully my donation won’t be needed for this frivolous venture of the church and the funds can be used otherwise.

[I Have Questions]

To be fair to the Church, it’s not like there are bigger things going on the world which they ought to be taking public stances on…

[yellowstone123]

It seems interesting that the church has always been interested in property, from the time of Joseph Smith Jr. to this day—but why?

Early Christian documents from the first century—the authors and editors of the four Gospels and other documents (letters)—portray Jesus as anti-property. He cautions against seeking treasures that rust or that thieves can steal. He suggests selling all you have and following him, giving to everyone who asks, and admonishes believers to lay up their treasures in heaven. Perhaps he saw physical property as impermanent—always in a state of flux, decaying, and of no real value.

One beautiful story worth reading is in Victor Hugo’s Les Misérables. Jean Valjean is caught by the police for stealing the church’s silver and brought back to the bishop. Monseigneur Myriel tells the authorities that the silver was a gift and hands Valjean his two silver candlesticks, saying he forgot to take them. Many believe this act saved his soul.

[Res Ipsa]

It seems interesting that the church has always been interested in property, from the time of Joseph Smith Jr. to this day—but why?

Early Christian documents from the first century—the authors and editors of the four Gospels and other documents (letters)—portray Jesus as anti-property. He cautions against seeking treasures that rust or that thieves can steal. He suggests selling all you have and following him, giving to everyone who asks, and admonishes believers to lay up their treasures in heaven. Perhaps he saw physical property as impermanent—always in a state of flux, decaying, and of no real value.

One beautiful story worth reading is in Victor Hugo’s Les Misérables. Jean Valjean is caught by the police for stealing the church’s silver and brought back to the bishop. Monseigneur Myriel tells the authorities that the silver was a gift and hands Valjean his two silver candlesticks, saying he forgot to take them. Many believe this act saved his soul.

Good point. I've always understood Jesus as caring not a whit about property.

[Fence Sitter]

Good point. I've always understood Jesus as caring not a whit about property.

One person's sacred cow is another person's steak dinner. The identity wars over Jesus™ started as soon as he was dead and continue today.