Mormon at ages 11, 15, 24 is really Joseph Smith Jr., in disguise!

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Shulem wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:14 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:21 am
Not much new to shout about, huh?
I think you'll find this thread to contain new content and is something worth shouting about!

What say ye, MG? Will you deny these things?

Show me how I'm wrong about Joseph Smith planting himself between the covers of his novel. MG, you've been had! You've been lied to. How does that make you feel?

The Mormon religion (cult) is sinking into the abyss and nothing can stop it from going under.
Quite true. The perplexing thing is how many folks put themselves in total denial of reality.
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Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:03 pm
Quite true. The perplexing thing is how many folks put themselves in total denial of reality.
And the silence from those sorry-ass apologetic punks is simply deafening.

Them damn liars for the Lord.

Dan Peterson is a punk and a bully who so needs too have his ass kicked again and again.

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Re: Mormon at ages 11, 15, 24 is really Joseph Smith Jr., in disguise!

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And here's the kicker:

The Presidents of the Mormon church remain silent and aloof regarding the controversial/catostrophic division among church members regarding Book of Mormon geography as well as other matters that demonstrate the book is a work of fiction. The lazy prophets of Mormonism are f-ing cowards and prop themselves up before the church with their mighty titles of "prophets, seers, and revelators", when in reality they are nothing more than worldly business men who dream about what it must be like to be a real prophet like those in scripture. The Mormon prophets are absolute fakes and are leading a flock of sheep that get no answers to grave matters that plague the divided faithful members of the church.

Mormon "prophets" are a joke. They are laughing stocks who pretend to be something they are not. Mormonism is divided, a house divided among itself and subject to splitting into factions. How much longer will it hold together? That is the question! How long will Bradley hold out? That is another question which will be answered all in due time.

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Re: Mormon at ages 11, 15, 24 is really Joseph Smith Jr., in disguise!

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What are the Odds?

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If the lives of Smith & Mormon were like the roll of a die having 6 sides (numbers), what are the odds?

Journey as a young boy ................ 09, 10, (11), 12, 13, 14
Visitation from Jesus ................... 13, 14, (15), 16, 17, 18
Translate plates ......................... 22, 23, (24), 25, 26, 27


Substitute age 11 for number 3 on the die
Substitute age 15 for number 3 on the die
Substitute age 24 for number 3 on the die

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The odds of rolling any given number on the die is 1 in 6.

What are the odds of rolling three 3's in a row?

1 in 216!

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Re: Mormon at ages 11, 15, 24 is really Joseph Smith Jr., in disguise!

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Eventually, the 11-15-24 parallel will have to be addressed by the leadership of the Church (behind closed doors) who will be influenced by apologetic forces within the Church. Boring and dull Church leaders are unable to do their own work but rely on apologists to fight their battles. Church Presidents are busy running a worldwide cult and don't have time to formulate new apologetic ideas and their so-called inspiration with the Holy Ghost® resides in a black hole of personal slavery in which they cannot escape. The President of the Church is a puppet to the institution in which he serves, going around and around a circle of complete fantasy.

Book of Mormon revelation that will justify the 11-15-24:
Words of Mormon 1:7 wrote:And I do this for a wise purpose; for thus it whispereth me, according to the workings of the Spirit of the Lord which is in me. And now, I do not know all things; but the Lord knoweth all things which are to come; wherefore, he worketh in me to do according to his will.

After the church formerly accepts the parallel as a kind of prophetic storytelling from God, then the fun will begin as critics join forces with AI to tear it apart and prove to the world just how dark and deceptive Mormonism really can be in defending its lies.
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In another thread on this board, DNA expert (Simon Southerton) queried about the historicity of Book of Mormon DNA:

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simon southerton wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2026 5:54 am
What would be the odds of a group of Middle Easterners (1) sailing half way around the world, (2) building a major civilisation and mixing with local populations and then (2) their DNA going completely extinct? There has been no comparable migration, colonisation and extinction event in the history of the world. Lets assume the odds of this event occurring were 1 in 1000. I think that's being extremely generous. The odds of this happening three times would be 1 in 1000 x 1000 x 1000. Or 1 chance in 1 billion. And that's being extremely generous.
The probability in demonstrating how DNA proves the Book of Mormon is authentic is pretty much nil if not virtually impossible. Similarly, the 11-15-24 combination imbedded by Smith within the storyline mathematically shows how the character of Mormon was mirroring Joseph Smith's own life while imagining himself playing an important ancient character portrayed in the novel. The entire church will eventually have to face this as knowledge becomes more readily available thanks to the Internet and more especially, Almighty AI-God.

The word is out. Shout it on the housetops! The Book of Mormon is Joseph Smith's personal egotistic fiction!
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If the lives of Smith & Mormon were like the roll of a die having 6 sides (numbers), what are the odds?

Journey as a young boy ................ 09, 10, (11), 12, 13, 14
Visitation from Jesus ................... 13, 14, (15), 16, 17, 18
Translate plates ......................... 22, 23, (24), 25, 26, 27
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What would Peterson say?

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Imagine if you would, the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve asked to take the matter up with the Lord, individually, and prayerfully enquire of the Lord whether the parallelism of 11-15-24 is a matter of (1) Random Coincidence or (2) Divine Coincidence. How would the apostolic prayers be answerd and how might those numbers tally? Would the Holy Ghost® give them the same answer in which all 15 are unified on the same revelatory page?

Let the 15 prophets pray and get their answer:

First Presidency
[ ] Random Coincidence
[ ] Divine Coincidence

Quorum of the Twelve
[ ] Random Coincidence
[ ] Divine Coincidence

Think about it! The Mormon church doesn't operate by means of amazing revelations but administers church procedure and current policy on a business basis while at the same time pretending to be real prophets, seers, and revelators. But they are false prophets, blind, and don't know how to prophesy and refuse to settle conflicting beliefs held by members of their divided church, such as Book of Mormon geography, Book of Abraham translation, etc.

The 11-15-24 is going to bite those false Mormon prophets right in the ass! They deserve what is coming their way as AI-God is combining in full force and will destroy the guise of Mormon prophets.

It's coming soon! Get your popcorn and sodas! It's going to be fun.

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Peterson wrote:Random Coincidence? Divine Coincidence?

Me, ask God which is true? Would that not be tempting God?

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You need not ask God, Dan. Pull your head out of your sorry ass and use your own brain and come to terms that neither is true. You should know that Joseph Smith included it into the script via dictation while in an egotistic trance. It wasn't a coincidence but was done by design and much forethought. The joke is on you Mormons for failing to figure it out just like you failed to figure out that Anubis would never appear like he does in Facsimile No. 3 without his snout and headcloth. Smith hacked them off! You don't believe me? Just ask professor John Gee and he will set you straight.
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Eleven (11)

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Wed May 03, 2023 11:34 am
The Smith family migrated to Palmyra during the winter of 1816-17, precisely when young Joseph turned eleven in the month of December.
Young Joseph was eleven (11) years old *when* (JANUARY) he arrived in Palmyra with his mother and siblings in the dead of winter. Specific markers and indicators in the historical records indicate this was the case and that Lucy and the children arrived in Palmyra during the New Year after making the long trek of over 300 miles across the snowy wilderness from Norwich Vermont to Palmyra New York.
Richard Bushman, Rough Stone Rolling wrote:
  • Snow covered the ground when Lucy and the eight children left Norwich
  • The Smiths fell in with a Gates family traveling west in sleighs
  • Joseph, who had just discarded his crutches and was still lame, limped along in the snow
  • Lucy arrived at Palmyra, after a journey of three to four weeks
  • Migration in 1816 and 1817 dealt a blow to the state’s prospects from which it did not recover for a century.
Lucy's Book: A Critical Edition of Lucy Mack Smith’s Family Memoir, Lavina Fielding Anderson wrote:
  • Joseph himself remembers that he was still using crutches and limping heavily until January 1817 when the family moved to Palmyra
  • According to a memoir that Joseph Jr. dictated in December 1842, he had only just stopped using crutches, it was winter, and the family was utilizing sleighs rather than wagons
The Joseph Smith & Emma Hale Smith Historical Society, Michael Kennedy wrote:Joseph Jr. only remained in the state of his birth for part of the first decade of his life. He related on the pages of his 1838 history, “My father Joseph Smith, Senior, left the state of Vermont and moved to Palmyra, Ontario (now Wayne) County, in the state of New York, when I was in my tenth year or thereabout.” When evaluating the move of the Smith family to Palmyra, New York, it is important to remember that they journeyed to this destination in two different shifts. Joseph Smith Sr. went ahead of the rest of the group in order to find a place to live and to try to secure employment. It is evident from the wording of the Prophet’s 1838 statement that he is only talking there about the departure of his father, and he indicates that this happened “when [Joseph Jr.] was in [his] tenth year,” meaning sometime before 23 December 1816 (the day on which he would have turned eleven years old). The words “or thereabout” in the 1838 account are an addition to the manuscript made by Willard Richards, and it is not known when exactly he made this editorial insertion or whether he did so at the instigation of the Prophet. These extra words, however, may have been influenced by the phraseology of the Prophet’s 1832 history, wherein he said, “at the age of about ten years my father Joseph Smith Senior moved to Palmyra.” In a letter Joseph Smith published in late 1834, he simply stated that his “family removed to Palmyra” when he was “the age of ten.” And in 1842, he set the same parameter, this time for both his father and mother: “When ten years old my parents removed to Palmyra New York.” Thus, it can be determined that Father Smith left Vermont sometime in 1816 and that Mother Smith and the rest of the family followed him later that same year. However, evidence from a notebook created by the scribe for Lucy Mack Smith’s autobiography suggests that her group did not arrive in Palmyra until sometime in January 1817.
The point of this post is to counter any apologetic arguments that oppose the connection between Mormon and young Joseph being eleven years old while making their respective journeys. The 11-15-24 is an airtight and rock solid critical argument to prove, by the numbers, that Joseph Smith and prophet Mormon were one in the same but in different stories and environments.

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"recognizable narrative patterns"

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William L. Davis, 2012 wrote:Who really wrote the Book of Mormon?

When [John] Bunyan composed his stories in the late seventeenth century, he did so by cobbling together narrative elements, concepts and ideas from multiple biblical and literary sources (along with his vivid imagination and events from his own life). His characteristic patchwork of old and new story elements resulted in recognizable narrative patterns that act as “fingerprints” in the text, identifying Bunyan’s unique alterations to the scriptural and secular tales he recombined.

Several of Bunyan’s distinctive narrative patterns repeatedly appear in the Book of Mormon. One of the most prominent examples is the template that forms the narrative foundation for both the story of Faithful, a Christian martyr in Pilgrim’s Progress, and the story of the Prophet Abinadi in the Book of Mormon.

What's good for the goose (Bunyan) is good for the gander (Smith)!

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