Husbands/fathers as spiritual leaders in the home

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Re: Husbands/fathers as spiritual leaders in the home

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Mon Oct 12, 2026 8:20 pm
Your first sentence was unnecessary and did not add to the conversation.
It was a sincere question, and necessary because you keep describing the Restoration as an evolutionary process involving additional light and knowledge.

But restoration implies that something once existed, was lost, and needed to be restored. What exactly was that something? What was its original form, and how do you know it was lost?

And if what was restored continues to evolve and change, what are we even talking about?
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Limnor wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2026 8:30 pm
MG 2.0 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2026 8:20 pm
Your first sentence was unnecessary and did not add to the conversation.
It was a sincere question, and necessary because you keep describing the Restoration as an evolutionary process involving additional light and knowledge.

But restoration implies that something once existed, was lost, and needed to be restored. What exactly was that something? What was its original form, and how do you know it was lost?

And if what was restored continues to evolve and change, what are we even talking about?
I think if you read my last post carefully you will determine what I’m talking about. Again, I will ask, do you consider yourself to be a Creedal Christian that believes in the Triune God? If so, is this God the one Jesus refers to in His teachings found in the New Testament?

When He prays to His Father in Heaven…at His baptism…etc.,etc.

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MG 2.0 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2026 8:38 pm
Limnor wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2026 8:30 pm


It was a sincere question, and necessary because you keep describing the Restoration as an evolutionary process involving additional light and knowledge.

But restoration implies that something once existed, was lost, and needed to be restored. What exactly was that something? What was its original form, and how do you know it was lost?

And if what was restored continues to evolve and change, what are we even talking about?
I think if you read my last post carefully you will determine what I’m talking about. Again, I will ask, do you consider yourself to be a Creedal Christian that believes in the Triune God? If so, is this God the one Jesus refers to in His teachings found in the New Testament?

When He prays to His Father in Heaven…at His baptism…etc.,etc.

Regards,
MG
I think if you read my last post carefully, you’ll determine what I’m asking.

What exactly was lost that Joseph Smith needed to restore? And if the Restoration is continually evolving into something different, how do you tell restoration from innovation?

Surely that’s not an unreasonable question to ask about something called the Restoration.
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Creedal Christian? C’mon. Answer the question. :D
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Mon Oct 12, 2026 8:43 pm
Creedal Christian? C’mon. Answer the question. :D
You still haven’t answered mine.
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Limnor wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2026 8:46 pm
MG 2.0 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2026 8:43 pm
Creedal Christian? C’mon. Answer the question. :D
You still haven’t answered mine.
I’ve answered. You’re being evasive. Why would that be?

I don’t think you’re going to answer. You’re using me as a foil/smoke screen.

Well, alright then.

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Mon Oct 12, 2026 9:41 pm
Limnor wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2026 8:46 pm


You still haven’t answered mine.
I’ve answered. You’re being evasive. Why would that be?

I don’t think you’re going to answer. You’re using me as a foil/smoke screen.

Well, alright then.

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You’re getting warmer. But I'm not the one claiming to have restored something I can't identify.
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Limnor wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2026 9:46 pm
MG 2.0 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2026 9:41 pm


I’ve answered. You’re being evasive. Why would that be?

I don’t think you’re going to answer. You’re using me as a foil/smoke screen.

Well, alright then.

Regards,
MG
You’re getting warmer. But I'm not the one claiming to have restored something I can't identify.
Creedal Christian or not? If so, can you defend your position from the Bible?

Giving a hint as to something that might need to have been restored.

Can you take the hint? ;)

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MG 2.0 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2026 9:53 pm
Limnor wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2026 9:46 pm


You’re getting warmer. But I'm not the one claiming to have restored something I can't identify.
Creedal Christian or not? If so, can you defend your position from the Bible?

Giving a hint as to something that might need to have been restored.

Can you take the hint? ;)

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MG
I can take a hint. Apparently you’re suggesting that the nature of God needed to be restored.

Now, which understanding of God did Joseph restore? The one reflected in the 1830 Book of Mormon, or the one he taught in 1844?
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Limnor wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2026 9:56 pm
MG 2.0 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 12, 2026 9:53 pm


Creedal Christian or not? If so, can you defend your position from the Bible?

Giving a hint as to something that might need to have been restored.

Can you take the hint? ;)

Regards,
MG
I can take a hint. Apparently you’re suggesting that the nature of God needed to be restored.

Now, which understanding of God did Joseph restore? The one reflected in the 1830 Book of Mormon, or the one he taught in 1844?
Ah, now we’re getting somewhere on this thread.

What was the nature of God according to Creedal Christianity at the time of Joseph Smith? I think that needs to be determined up front.

You will most likely disagree.

Oh, and did what was being taught in regard to the Triune God come from the Bible?

ARE YOU A CREEDAL CHRISTIAN?

If so, no need to keep beating around the bush.

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