Seven women to every man.

[_Sethbag]

THe idea of seven women for one man comes from here:

Isaiah 4:1:

1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

Well, that sure sounds a lot like some of the polygamy stories I have read of from Utah in the 1800s, where polygamous wives were left to fend for themselves, and their offspring.

Bob McCue's own ancestor who moved to Canada did so after her polygamous husband died and she, not being the first wife, inherited f*ckall to support herself and her kids.

[_The Nehor]

[I thought that was an analogy and that the seven suburbs of Jerusalem would cleave unto the Holy City in order to share in it's glory.

Ah ha, you've stumbled upon the crux of Mormon scriptural interpretation! It doesn't really matter what or why the seven women were clinging, it matters that the church was able to put that scripture to use in representing plural marriage. Its like, "Other sheep I have that are not of this fold" - it doesn't have to really be about the Book of Mormon, so long as it can be INTERPRETED as such.

Jason,

Thanks for the correct quote.

Again, without the whole Spirit thing the Scriptures are pretty useless.

[_Jason Bourne]

[I thought that was an analogy and that the seven suburbs of Jerusalem would cleave unto the Holy City in order to share in it's glory.

Ah ha, you've stumbled upon the crux of Mormon scriptural interpretation! It doesn't really matter what or why the seven women were clinging, it matters that the church was able to put that scripture to use in representing plural marriage. Its like, "Other sheep I have that are not of this fold" - it doesn't have to really be about the Book of Mormon, so long as it can be INTERPRETED as such.

Jason,

Thanks for the correct quote.

Again, without the whole Spirit thing the Scriptures are pretty useless.

But what about when the spirit tells LDS one way to understand and the Evangelical another way? That spirit is one tricky dude!

[_barrelomonkeys]

But what about when the spirit tells LDS one way to understand and the Evangelical another way? That spirit is one tricky dude!

Indeed!

[_The Nehor]

[I thought that was an analogy and that the seven suburbs of Jerusalem would cleave unto the Holy City in order to share in it's glory.

Ah ha, you've stumbled upon the crux of Mormon scriptural interpretation! It doesn't really matter what or why the seven women were clinging, it matters that the church was able to put that scripture to use in representing plural marriage. Its like, "Other sheep I have that are not of this fold" - it doesn't have to really be about the Book of Mormon, so long as it can be INTERPRETED as such.

Jason,

Thanks for the correct quote.

Again, without the whole Spirit thing the Scriptures are pretty useless.

But what about when the spirit tells LDS one way to understand and the Evangelical another way? That spirit is one tricky dude!

Well then you really have to go with the whole first-hand thing. Why the LDS have been teaching that you can't rely on 'borrowed light' for long.

[_barrelomonkeys]

[I thought that was an analogy and that the seven suburbs of Jerusalem would cleave unto the Holy City in order to share in it's glory.

Ah ha, you've stumbled upon the crux of Mormon scriptural interpretation! It doesn't really matter what or why the seven women were clinging, it matters that the church was able to put that scripture to use in representing plural marriage. Its like, "Other sheep I have that are not of this fold" - it doesn't have to really be about the Book of Mormon, so long as it can be INTERPRETED as such.

Jason,

Thanks for the correct quote.

Again, without the whole Spirit thing the Scriptures are pretty useless.

But what about when the spirit tells LDS one way to understand and the Evangelical another way? That spirit is one tricky dude!

Well then you really have to go with the whole first-hand thing. Why the LDS have been teaching that you can't rely on 'borrowed light' for long.

What do you mean by your statement Nehor? That EVs are borrowing light left over by LDS? I'm not following you. Like usual. :)

[_truth dancer]

Hi Scottie....

The other thing that makes this odd is that the vast VAST majority of human beings will die before the age of 8.

Then if you add in the belief that some have that when an egg is fertilized a spirit is assigned to it, well, there's a few more gazillion spirits that will miscarry.

When you mix in the "worlds without number" that God has scattered around the universe, those of us that actually make it past the age of 8 will make up such an insignificant portion of those in the CK, that it should be statistically close to 50/50 male/female.

Here is my take on this...

So, God and his Goddess harem created something like 60 billion souls who have come to the earth... 1/3 (or so) were cast off which, rounding up for those who still might come to the earth, we have a total of about 100 billion spirits.

So, around 30 billion didn't make it here which makes me wonder what sort of plan this is that 1/3 of the spirits were so evil they had to be cast off... but moving on.

Of the 60 or so billion souls who did make it here about 1/2 would die in childhood.

So, of the 30 or so billion left, only a virtual handful have ever heard of Joseph Smith, let alone Jesus Christ, so the idea I have heard is that all these 29 billion souls will hear the gospel in the next life. Could we assume that in the next life they would've course not have to endure real life... it makes sense they would make it to the CKHL. (How are they going to commit adultery if they don't have bodies... ya know)?

Anyway, the whole things just doesn't make any sort of sense whatsoever. It comes down to a few million men and women who are tested, and if more women make it to the CKHL than do men, how fair is this system that the test comes down to keeping out a bunch of men alive in these couple of centuries.

There is a big plan but only a virtual handful of the 100 billion souls even realize the plan, or have any chance of engaging in the plan in any sort of conscious way...

~dancer~

[_The Nehor]

Hi Scottie....

The other thing that makes this odd is that the vast VAST majority of human beings will die before the age of 8.

Then if you add in the belief that some have that when an egg is fertilized a spirit is assigned to it, well, there's a few more gazillion spirits that will miscarry.

When you mix in the "worlds without number" that God has scattered around the universe, those of us that actually make it past the age of 8 will make up such an insignificant portion of those in the CK, that it should be statistically close to 50/50 male/female.

Here is my take on this...

So, God and his Goddess harem created something like 60 billion souls who have come to the earth... 1/3 (or so) were cast off which, rounding up for those who still might come to the earth, we have a total of about 100 billion spirits.

So, around 30 billion didn't make it here which makes me wonder what sort of plan this is that 1/3 of the spirits were so evil they had to be cast off... but moving on.

Of the 60 or so billion souls who did make it here about 1/2 would die in childhood.

So, of the 30 or so billion left, only a virtual handful have ever heard of Joseph Smith, let alone Jesus Christ, so the idea I have heard is that all these 29 billion souls will hear the gospel in the next life. Could we assume that in the next life they would've course not have to endure real life... it makes sense they would make it to the CKHL. (How are they going to commit adultery if they don't have bodies... ya know)?

Anyway, the whole things just doesn't make any sort of sense whatsoever. It comes down to a few million men and women who are tested, and if more women make it to the CKHL than do men, how fair is this system that the test comes down to keeping out a bunch of men alive in these couple of centuries.

There is a big plan but only a virtual handful of the 100 billion souls even realize the plan, or have any chance of engaging in the plan in any sort of conscious way...

~dancer~

Yep, we know only a little of how the plan works for everyone who dies young and we have work for the Dead but understand little more than that as to how it is applied and works.

I do know what I have to do and that's enough.

[_Jason Bourne]

Well then you really have to go with the whole first-hand thing. Why the LDS have been teaching that you can't rely on 'borrowed light' for long.

What do you mean the first hand thing?

[_Maxrep]

Hi Scottie....

The other thing that makes this odd is that the vast VAST majority of human beings will die before the age of 8.

Then if you add in the belief that some have that when an egg is fertilized a spirit is assigned to it, well, there's a few more gazillion spirits that will miscarry.

When you mix in the "worlds without number" that God has scattered around the universe, those of us that actually make it past the age of 8 will make up such an insignificant portion of those in the CK, that it should be statistically close to 50/50 male/female.

Here is my take on this...

So, God and his Goddess harem created something like 60 billion souls who have come to the earth... 1/3 (or so) were cast off which, rounding up for those who still might come to the earth, we have a total of about 100 billion spirits.

So, around 30 billion didn't make it here which makes me wonder what sort of plan this is that 1/3 of the spirits were so evil they had to be cast off... but moving on.

Of the 60 or so billion souls who did make it here about 1/2 would die in childhood.

So, of the 30 or so billion left, only a virtual handful have ever heard of Joseph Smith, let alone Jesus Christ, so the idea I have heard is that all these 29 billion souls will hear the gospel in the next life. Could we assume that in the next life they would've course not have to endure real life... it makes sense they would make it to the CKHL. (How are they going to commit adultery if they don't have bodies... ya know)?

Anyway, the whole things just doesn't make any sort of sense whatsoever. It comes down to a few million men and women who are tested, and if more women make it to the CKHL than do men, how fair is this system that the test comes down to keeping out a bunch of men alive in these couple of centuries.

There is a big plan but only a virtual handful of the 100 billion souls even realize the plan, or have any chance of engaging in the plan in any sort of conscious way...

~dancer~

Great points Scottie and TD.

I have mentioned before the curious problem of the CK being populated by children who haven't reached accountability. Also, as TD points out, in the grand landscape of humanity, the church really doesn't even exist. It made the slightest blip on the radar and is now fading. All this pomp and circumstance about restoration, keys returned, blah blah blah, special priesthood authority, and we now see that for any real impact on humanity - it just doesn't even exist.