Would a President Romney do what Salt Lake City told him to?

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Zoidberg wrote:
Scottie wrote:I honestly don't see the first presidency asking Mitt to do anything. I've been very impressed at how the presidency makes it a point to stay out of politics.


Are you serious? They got very heavily involved with the Equal Right Amendment, the Federal Marriage Amendment, etc. Benson was ranting and raving about the commies staging the Civil Rights movement and how half the people in the government are traitors in public speeches in his apostolic capacity. People were given assignments to write to their representatives about banning gay marriage. Total non-involvement.

Good points. I was thinking about how they never tell a member to vote republican or democrat.

And, I guess while you're at it, the whole no gay scout leaders fiasco a couple of years ago.
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Re: Would a President Romney do what Salt Lake City told him

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ozemc wrote:I was talking with a friend of mine who is completely against Mitt Romney because he thinks that, as a full-fledged Mormon, Mitt would in essence be taking orders from the Prophet in SLC. We would basically have a Theocracy at that point.

So, for instance, if the Prophet said "God wants you to nuke England" (again, my friend's words, not mine), then Romney would have to do it. Otherwise, he's disobeying God.

No, I don't think that would happen, but it does show that others out there are having these sorts of discussions.

What do you think?


NO. Being reasonably educated and intellilgent, he'll pick and choose what he wants to obey and believe. Although he said that publicly that he is not a cafeteria Mormon, in fact, he is, as is my wife, as are my parents, my siblings; as was I, as are, probably, almost all the apologists over at the MADB.

Mormons talk a lot about how wonderful prophetic and apostolic guideance is, yet they are very selective in how they choose to adhere to it, at least the the well-off.

I think this is a Red Herring.
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Are you serious? They got very heavily involved with the Equal Right Amendment, the Federal Marriage Amendment, etc. Benson was ranting and raving about the commies staging the Civil Rights movement and how half the people in the government are traitors in public speeches in his apostolic capacity. People were given assignments to write to their representatives about banning gay marriage. Total non-involvement.


1. These are social issues that affect the nature of the culture in which we live and the Church has every right to be involved in and take positions on such issues. These are issues that have doctrinal implications regarding the moral, cultural, and plitical characteristics of a nation and people.

2. There was indigenous penetration of the early civil rights movement by elements of the radical Left, and the civil rights movement was a target for co-option by the Soviets as a wedge issue and movement for its various front groups.

3. There is no such thing as "gay marriage".
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truth dancer wrote:If one holds to the idea that in the last days the Constitution will be hanging by a thread and that the "priesthood" will come in to save the United States, then maybe this is all part of the plan and Mitt as president is just the beginning.

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If one holds to the idea that in the last days the Constitution will be hanging by a thread and that the "priesthood" will come in to save the United States, then maybe this is all part of the plan and Mitt as president is just the beginning.



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Well, we already have anecdotal evidence, via a statement given by Prof. Judy Dushku to a news reporter, that Romney had to "get permission" from the Brethren in order to play the pro-choice card. Obviously, he is seeking counsel from the Brethren in terms of how to behave, which positions to support, etc. Would he do something so extreme as "nuking England"? I seriously doubt that; but it would not surprise me in the least if he were to seriously stretch the boundaries of the Executive Office in order to "do the Brethren's bidding," as it were.
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Dear Wormwood:


Well, we already have anecdotal evidence, via a statement given by Prof. Judy Dushku to a news reporter, that Romney had to "get permission" from the Brethren in order to play the pro-choice card. Obviously, he is seeking counsel from the Brethren in terms of how to behave, which positions to support, etc. Would he do something so extreme as "nuking England"? I seriously doubt that; but it would not surprise me in the least if he were to seriously stretch the boundaries of the Executive Office in order to "do the Brethren's bidding," as it were.



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Post by _Trevor »

Well, if he does take orders from the Brethren, I hope it slips out... like when Holland was scheming on how to use BYU alumni to promote Romney's campaign. Sure would be a fun controversy to watch unfold.
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Mister Scratch wrote:Well, we already have anecdotal evidence, via a statement given by Prof. Judy Dushku to a news reporter, that Romney had to "get permission" from the Brethren in order to play the pro-choice card. Obviously, he is seeking counsel from the Brethren in terms of how to behave, which positions to support, etc. Would he do something so extreme as "nuking England"? I seriously doubt that; but it would not surprise me in the least if he were to seriously stretch the boundaries of the Executive Office in order to "do the Brethren's bidding," as it were.


Well, I did think my friend was going off the deep end with the "England" statement ... I hope it was more tongue in cheek than anything else.

Seriously, though, it seems as if there are a lot of people that are troubled by the idea that he is some sort of Machurian Candidate. Maybe that's why he's going to make a speech about it.
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Coggins7 wrote:
Are you serious? They got very heavily involved with the Equal Right Amendment, the Federal Marriage Amendment, etc. Benson was ranting and raving about the commies staging the Civil Rights movement and how half the people in the government are traitors in public speeches in his apostolic capacity. People were given assignments to write to their representatives about banning gay marriage. Total non-involvement.


1. These are social issues that affect the nature of the culture in which we live and the Church has every right to be involved in and take positions on such issues. These are issues that have doctrinal implications regarding the moral, cultural, and plitical characteristics of a nation and people.

And nuking England doesn't?

2. There was indigenous penetration of the early civil rights movement by elements of the radical Left, and the civil rights movement was a target for co-option by the Soviets as a wedge issue and movement for its various front groups.

Yeah. Commie faggot pinkos in the civil rights movement trying to take over America and put Stalinists in charge! How dare they?!?

You and Ezra Taft Benson were made for each other.
3. There is no such thing as "gay marriage".

Sure there is. What there's no such thing as is two brain cells to rub together in your head.
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