Mormons and Suicide

[_Mister Scratch]

What are you referring to about queues to be married in the temple? Queues mean long lines. ?????

The last time I was at Temple Square, there was indeed something akin to a "queue" outside the temple---i.e., a "line," as it were, of 18- and 19-year-old kids waiting to be married.

[_LifeOnaPlate]

What are you referring to about queues to be married in the temple? Queues mean long lines. ?????

The last time I was at Temple Square, there was indeed something akin to a "queue" outside the temple---I.e., a "line," as it were, of 18- and 19-year-old kids waiting to be married.

Something wrong with that?

[_Imwashingmypirate]

I didn't vote, because there wasn't a "yes, but. . ." option.

We are all accountable for our choices. I think sometimes people who are extremely depressed are not capable of rational choice. In that case, then the "but. . . " comes in.

God knows the heart. He judges.

If a person committs suicide, they can still have their funeral service in a Church building, and the bishop can still speak. It isn't like having to be buried outside the consecrated ground.

I didn't know there was consecrated grounds for Mormons to be buried in but I guess things are diffeent here. We don't have ques for Mormons to be married in the temple.

There aren't any Mormon cemetaries. I was referring to rules on the burial place owned by other churches. In countries with state churches, the churches often have cemeteries associated with the church building. Suicides were not allowed to be buried in them.

What are you referring to about queues to be married in the temple? Queues mean long lines. ?????

Ah I see. I was refering to long lines. I was told that in America people que outside the temple to get married. In the UK we need to have a civil wedding and then go to the temple.

[_Imwashingmypirate]

What are you referring to about queues to be married in the temple? Queues mean long lines. ?????

The last time I was at Temple Square, there was indeed something akin to a "queue" outside the temple---I.e., a "line," as it were, of 18- and 19-year-old kids waiting to be married.

Thanks. By jeez Im that age. That is sick. How can people brainwash people so much as to have that happen.

[_Mister Scratch]

What are you referring to about queues to be married in the temple? Queues mean long lines. ?????

The last time I was at Temple Square, there was indeed something akin to a "queue" outside the temple---I.e., a "line," as it were, of 18- and 19-year-old kids waiting to be married.

Something wrong with that?

Such as what?

[_charity]

What are you referring to about queues to be married in the temple? Queues mean long lines. ?????

The last time I was at Temple Square, there was indeed something akin to a "queue" outside the temple---I.e., a "line," as it were, of 18- and 19-year-old kids waiting to be married.

Thanks. By jeez I'm that age. That is sick. How can people brainwash people so much as to have that happen.

You have been given wrong information. In the United States, people can be married civilly (for time)and for eternity in the same ceremony in the temple. The sealers are authorized to perform civil marriages. To be married and sealed, the couple must bring a county (civil)marriage license to the temple. Sealers do not perform sealings only on unmarried couples.

The only lines we have at the Portland Temple will be wedding parties (after the ceremony) who all want to have their wedding photos taken at the "scenic spots" around the temple--the reflecting pond, the fountain, the front of the temple.

And about the ages of the couples. The 18 or 19 year old is definiately a rarity. Most couples are out of their teens. Eatly to mid-twenties at least.

[_Mister Scratch]

What are you referring to about queues to be married in the temple? Queues mean long lines. ?????

The last time I was at Temple Square, there was indeed something akin to a "queue" outside the temple---I.e., a "line," as it were, of 18- and 19-year-old kids waiting to be married.

Thanks. By jeez I'm that age. That is sick. How can people brainwash people so much as to have that happen.

You have been given wrong information. In the United States, people can be married civilly (for time)and for eternity in the same ceremony in the temple. The sealers are authorized to perform civil marriages. To be married and sealed, the couple must bring a county (civil)marriage license to the temple. Sealers do not perform sealings only on unmarried couples.

The only lines we have at the Portland Temple will be wedding parties (after the ceremony) who all want to have their wedding photos taken at the "scenic spots" around the temple--the reflecting pond, the fountain, the front of the temple.

And about the ages of the couples. The 18 or 19 year old is definiately a rarity. Most couples are out of their teens. Eatly to mid-twenties at least.

CFR, Charity. This is totally bogus. The vast majority of the couples I saw when I was last at Temple Square were 18-19 years old, or perhaps 21-22 for the males (i.e., the RMs), tops. We have all read and heard the exhortations from the Brethren encouraging young LDS to get married ASAP, preferably as soon as the young men get back from their missions, so it should come as no surprise that teenaged kids constitute a significant number of temple marriages. I would be interested in seeing some figures, though know the Church, this stuff is probably top secret.

[_charity]

CFR, Charity. This is totally bogus. The vast majority of the couples I saw when I was last at Temple Square were 18-19 years old, or perhaps 21-22 for the males (I.e., the RMs), tops. We have all read and heard the exhortations from the Brethren encouraging young LDS to get married ASAP, preferably as soon as the young men get back from their missions, so it should come as no surprise that teenaged kids constitute a significant number of temple marriages. I would be interested in seeing some figures, though know the Church, this stuff is probably top secret.

I realize you probably won't accept stats from that well known Mormon apologetic group, the U.S. Census Bureau, but here it is anyway.

"Although the 2000-2003 U.S. Census Bureau data showed Utah had the lowest average age of marriage in the country-about 24 years of age for men and 22 for women, some three years younger than the national average for each gender-statistics say the age has increased among Latter-day Saints.

In the 1994 book "Contemporary Mormonism," a compilation of information about the LDS Church, data showed the average marriage age for Latter-day Saints was 22.3 years for males and 21.0 years for females. Although the average marriage age for Utahns may not mirror that of Latter-day Saints, there is a strong correlation between the two."

http://newsnet.BYU.edu/story.cfm/61964

Can I expect an apology for the bogus remark?

[_Trevor]

Can I expect an apology for the bogus remark?

With an average like that, I would expect that quite a few of these kids are getting married at seventeen in the chapel by their bishops. Now there's something to brag about.

[_charity]

Can I expect an apology for the bogus remark?

With an average like that, I would expect that quite a few of these kids are getting married at seventeen in the chapel by their bishops. Now there's something to brag about.

Stubborn, stubborn.


In the time I have lived in my ward (34 years now) there hasn't been one marriage of a 17 year old couple. Not even a 17 year old bride and older groom. Anecdotal, I know. But I will put it up against, your "I would expect" any day of the week. Give it up. You asked for stats. I gave you stats and you skyrocketed off into the stratosphere on a bag of gas. Shesssh. Just admit when you are wrong, Trevor!