"The Dark Road to Apostasy"

[_Moniker]

Shades, I think Nehor was making a funny. Observe:

How I would love to make a reply there! But, I'm afraid I couldn't do it with appropriate civility, so I thought I'd make a few remarks here.

I'd respond to this thread here but I don't think I can do so with any civility.

[_Mercury]

LDS are more educated than any other religious group.

What do you base this one?

And contrary to what is found in other religions, the more educated the LDSs are the higher their participation in the Church.

What do you base this on?

In other religions the more educated the less active.

What do you base this on?

I'd like to see the study you referenced for the above statements. Please post it on this thread.

Excellent points Jersey!

Now we see the reality shifting Mormon tactic of self agrandizement and arrogant falsehoods used to give an incorrect picture of Mormonism. Lets see if we can get her to back up her statements for once.

Answer the question charity, you low life.

[_mentalgymnast]

Mormon faithful cannot seem to accept the fact that some members leave the church simply because they no longer believe it to be true. . . The Mormon mantra that apostates are lazy, prideful, sinful, rebellious or otherwise faulty is growing tiresome.

(Here I go again. . .)

Hey KA, have you read the short essay titled The Believer and the Apostate?

It's the single greatest answer to, and analysis of, that particular MA&D thread that's ever been written.

Nice link! Yes, as the last line says, it will be interesting to see how this whole process unfolds in this age of information at our finger-tips!

I like this particular paragraph:

Thus, the apostate cannot exist in the worldview of the believer. There is no place in their psychological makeup for someone who was fully appraised of all the dogma of the tradition, who accepted all its pronouncements implicitly, and yet who later rejected the system. The very existence of such a person poses a threat to the careful mental balancing act in which act believers are engaged.

Rubbish. I think that the apostate MUST exist. To have those that have rejected the system, provides the doctrine of "opposition in all things" an opportunity to take hold within the world of Mormonism.

2 Ne. 2: 11
11 For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. If not so, my first-born in the wilderness, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad. Wherefore, all things must needs be a compound in one; wherefore, if it should be one body it must needs remain as dead, having no life neither death, nor corruption nor incorruption, happiness nor misery, neither sense nor insensibility.

Shades is providing an integral and important service/function on the internet...along with other apostates.

He and the others shall have their reward. Whether that reward is from above or from beneath remains to be seen.

Regards,
MG

[_The Nehor]

Shades, I think Nehor was making a funny.

Moniker is a smart girl ;)

[_Jersey Girl]

LDS are more educated than any other religious group.

What do you base this one?

And contrary to what is found in other religions, the more educated the LDSs are the higher their participation in the Church.

What do you base this on?

In other religions the more educated the less active.

What do you base this on?

I'd like to see the study you referenced for the above statements. Please post it on this thread.

Excellent points Jersey!

Now we see the reality shifting Mormon tactic of self agrandizement and arrogant falsehoods used to give an incorrect picture of Mormonism. Lets see if we can get her to back up her statements for once.

Answer the question charity, you low life.

I'd really like to see the research on the above.

[_charity]

LDS are more educated than any other religious group.

What do you base this on?

And contrary to what is found in other religions, the more educated the LDSs are the higher their participation in the Church.

What do you base this on?

In other religions the more educated the less active.

What do you base this on?

I'd like to see the study you referenced for the above statements. Please post it on this thread.

U've been looking for the last hour. I can't seem to hit the right combination of words in google to find it. Here is one little snippet and its link.

"Irish degree graduates are nearly eight times more likely to have no religion, than are Irish people who left school at primary level, according to the latest census figures. And this is a consistent pattern throughout the Irish education system – the further you go, the more likely you are to have no religion."

http://thatsireland.com/2007/12/02/more ... -religion/

[_Moniker]

Shades, I think Nehor was making a funny.

Moniker is a smart girl ;)

Don't tell Coggies. *innocent blink*

[_Moniker]

LDS are more educated than any other religious group.

What do you base this on?

And contrary to what is found in other religions, the more educated the LDSs are the higher their participation in the Church.

What do you base this on?

In other religions the more educated the less active.

What do you base this on?

I'd like to see the study you referenced for the above statements. Please post it on this thread.

U've been looking for the last hour. I can't seem to hit the right combination of words in google to find it. Here is one little snippet and its link.

"Irish degree graduates are nearly eight times more likely to have no religion, than are Irish people who left school at primary level, according to the latest census figures. And this is a consistent pattern throughout the Irish education system – the further you go, the more likely you are to have no religion."

http://thatsireland.com/2007/12/02/more ... -religion/

I know I read a few times in my courses that the statistics show that the higher educated one is the less likely they are to be religious. I believe the same held true for socio-economic status. No one ask for CFR on that cause I'm too damn lazy. Just recalling it cause a couple of pissy classmates didn't like the implications of the data. Anyway, if the opposite is true for LDS as it pertains to education that would be interesting.

[_Mercury]

LDS are more educated than any other religious group.

What do you base this on?

And contrary to what is found in other religions, the more educated the LDSs are the higher their participation in the Church.

What do you base this on?

In other religions the more educated the less active.

What do you base this on?

I'd like to see the study you referenced for the above statements. Please post it on this thread.

U've been looking for the last hour. I can't seem to hit the right combination of words in google to find it. Here is one little snippet and its link.

"Irish degree graduates are nearly eight times more likely to have no religion, than are Irish people who left school at primary level, according to the latest census figures. And this is a consistent pattern throughout the Irish education system – the further you go, the more likely you are to have no religion."

http://thatsireland.com/2007/12/02/more ... -religion/

Google is your reference go-to? You are a joke.

A little advice sweetheart:

Do Not State Something Unless You Can Back It Up.

[_The Nehor]

My experience would make me guess that first generation LDS are probably educationally average. 2nd and 3rd generation LDS (especially active ones) tend to all have some kind of degree or job training. I think they're slightly above average. Females have a higher education rate than males in the LDS church though RM males tend to be higher in education than non-RM. I suspect that is entirely due to discipline learned on Mission.