rcrocket wrote:The opening thread is ridiculous. It poses a question by an apostate who posts criticisms against the Church anonymously. Nuff said.
Are you calling my post criticizing scouting as criticism of the church? If so, you've helped answer my question.
"We of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith." - Gordon B. Hinckley
"It's wrong to criticize leaders of the Mormon Church even if the criticism is true." - Dallin H. Oaks
thestyleguy wrote:I liked scouting. I liked getting a new deacons quorum advisor and scout master every three months.
LOL. So true. I was one of those scout masters. I felt bad that I sucked at it, but I had no idea what I was doing and zero interest in it. It was hard for me to get psyched up about it.
"We of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith." - Gordon B. Hinckley
"It's wrong to criticize leaders of the Mormon Church even if the criticism is true." - Dallin H. Oaks
I personally hope we replace Scouting with our own program soon. Scouting is fading away. I kinda think we should let it die. I prefer the sports and more career oriented stuff we did. I'd like to keep camping but cut it back A LOT. Not sure what else to replace it with though.
The Church has a Duty to God program similar to the YW Personal progress program. It has been around for about 6 or 7 years or more. It can be used instead of scouting and/or along with scouting.
Jason Bourne wrote: Scouting is not mandatory though some LDS wards make is so.
What do you mean by making it mandatory? Parents can't opt out?
Speaking from my own experience, it's mandatory the way anything in the church is mandatory, through guilt. Scouting is the YM program, therefore inactivity in scouting makes a boy inactive in the youth church program, and you know how the church feels about inactive members.
Scouting is NOT the YM program but it is a component of the YM program. As noted, some wards are overly zealous about scouting. Others are not. Duty to God is more the program these days then scouting is. But a healthy approach allows young men to do both or either or.
Jason Bourne wrote: Scouting is not mandatory though some LDS wards make is so.
What do you mean by making it mandatory? Parents can't opt out?
I said it IS NOT Mandatory
Sheesh. Sorry! I was replying to the part I bolded... apparently there's some confusion here... and I'm not sure if it's on my part? Or yours?
Now mad at you. Just capped so you would see it. Sorry.
So NOW you're mad it him? ;) (Let's see how long we can keep the confusion going:)
"We of this Church do not rely on any man-made statement concerning the nature of Deity. Our knowledge comes directly from the personal experience of Joseph Smith." - Gordon B. Hinckley
"It's wrong to criticize leaders of the Mormon Church even if the criticism is true." - Dallin H. Oaks
Isn't it a calling to be a scoutmaster? I think it is part of the church and is off limits for critical commentary. The only thing weirder than the temple in the church is the Arrow of Light ceremony.