Is it hard to be a good Mormon?

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I remember a Gospel Doctrine lesson on keeping the sabbath holy.

The teacher said something about pulling a few weeds from the garden one Sunday as his wife and kids were outside playing, and did he break the sabbath by doing that. The bulk of the class thought that was sabbath breaking.

Start adding in sins of omission, sin of commission, sins when you think a certain thing, sins for feeling a certain way....it all starts to add up very quickly just how incredibly sinful we are in the eyes of the Mormon God.

So, yes, it is hard to be a Mormon.

Now, is it hard to APPEAR to be a good Mormon? No. Simply abstain from coffee, tea, tobacco and alcohol, pay tithes, attend meetings, don't do recreational activities on Sundays and be nice. Wearing garments and attending the temple helps.
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Hi Nehor...

To ascend the spiritual heights, repent daily, seek not just wisdom from God but greater commandments to obey, get the revelation you need to make yourself more perfect, and surrender yourself enough to let Christ save you....yeah, for me that's hard.


in my opinion, while the specifics may be different in Christianity than in other religions, faith traditions, or belief systems, this is more about just being a good person.

Life is not easy... living a full and healthy life is not simple but I see this common life journey not so much about Mormonism as just life.

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truth dancer wrote:Hi Nehor...

To ascend the spiritual heights, repent daily, seek not just wisdom from God but greater commandments to obey, get the revelation you need to make yourself more perfect, and surrender yourself enough to let Christ save you....yeah, for me that's hard.


in my opinion, while the specifics may be different in Christianity than in other religions, faith traditions, or belief systems, this is more about just being a good person.

Life is not easy... living a full and healthy life is not simple but I see this common life journey not so much about Mormonism as just life.

~dancer~


While I can see loose applicability everything I said was very non-secular.
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The Nehor wrote:Depends on if you mean keeping the simple standards. In that case I would say it depends on the person.

To ascend the spiritual heights, repent daily, seek not just wisdom from God but greater commandments to obey, get the revelation you need to make yourself more perfect, and surrender yourself enough to let Christ save you....yeah, for me that's hard.


My opinion for anyone interested, what Nehor said, I agree wholeheartedly. The "Mosaic Law" of the LDS faith isn't that hard. But trying to live to the very spirit of the law is. For most people, it isn't hard to pay your tithing. But not ever thinking, "and if I just had that money I would buy a. . . ." that's hard.

My hardest is "Love thy neighbor as thy self." I am constantly working on that one.
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charity wrote:
The Nehor wrote:Depends on if you mean keeping the simple standards. In that case I would say it depends on the person.

To ascend the spiritual heights, repent daily, seek not just wisdom from God but greater commandments to obey, get the revelation you need to make yourself more perfect, and surrender yourself enough to let Christ save you....yeah, for me that's hard.


My opinion for anyone interested, what Nehor said, I agree wholeheartedly. The "Mosaic Law" of the LDS faith isn't that hard. But trying to live to the very spirit of the law is. For most people, it isn't hard to pay your tithing. But not ever thinking, "and if I just had that money I would buy a. . . ." that's hard.

My hardest is "Love thy neighbor as thy self." I am constantly working on that one.


I'm interested. Good posts.
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Hi Nehor...

While I can see loose applicability everything I said was very non-secular.


I think most folks are tying to live a good life. They are trying to manage in healthy ways, help others, give to those in need, improve their imperfections, and live a better life.

Again, while the specifics of how this is done may be different, the common human journey is similar, regardless of race, belief, culture, etc.

My point is, life is not easy... it is not Mormonism that is difficult it is the challenges of life and the quest for a better world.

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truth dancer wrote:Hi Nehor...

While I can see loose applicability everything I said was very non-secular.


I think most folks are tying to live a good life. They are trying to manage in healthy ways, help others, give to those in need, improve their imperfections, and live a better life.

Again, while the specifics of how this is done may be different, the common human journey is similar, regardless of race, belief, culture, etc.

My point is, life is not easy... it is not Mormonism that is difficult it is the challenges of life and the quest for a better world.

~dancer~


I still see a vast difference. I don't want to live a good life. I want to transcend it. While I'm generally happy here, I am not happy enough. Just a taste of heaven is so bittersweet because I want to be there and I can't. I can't make it through an hour with the attributes I need to have.....I think some of my posts here are proof of that.

Still, I have enough Hope that one day all will be completely well.
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I still see a vast difference. I don't want to live a good life. I want to transcend it. While I'm generally happy here, I am not happy enough. Just a taste of heaven is so bittersweet because I want to be there and I can't. I can't make it through an hour with the attributes I need to have.....I think some of my posts here are proof of that.

Still, I have enough Hope that one day all will be completely well.


I think you are in the wrong religion.

Maybe Buddhism would be a better fit!

;)

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truth dancer wrote:
I still see a vast difference. I don't want to live a good life. I want to transcend it. While I'm generally happy here, I am not happy enough. Just a taste of heaven is so bittersweet because I want to be there and I can't. I can't make it through an hour with the attributes I need to have.....I think some of my posts here are proof of that.

Still, I have enough Hope that one day all will be completely well.


I think you are in the wrong religion.

Maybe Buddhism would be a better fit!

;)

~dancer~


To become a drop in the eternal conciousness? To sink into contented non-existence? No, I like myself too much for that. I want power and glory of the right kind (and the wrong kind too but I'm working on that). Plus in Nirvana I can't build myself my own private pleasure planet now can I?
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To become a drop in the eternal conciousness? To sink into contented non-existence? No, I like myself too much for that. I want power and glory of the right kind (and the wrong kind too but I'm working on that). Plus in Nirvana I can't build myself my own private pleasure planet now can I?


Ohhh no, no. You don't get it.

You experience heaven in each moment, transcendence is the way of existence. You do not reduce yourself to a drop but are the whole ocean.

;)

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