charity wrote:You left out Elder Uchtdorf. Care to explain him?
Let's see, senior vice president of flight operations for Lufthansa and chairman of the Flight Operations Committee of the International Air Transport Association. He was a stake president in Germany before being called to the Seventy in 1994. In 2002 he was called as one of the Presidency of the Seventy.
So, Uchtdorf came up through the ranks, as it were. He wasn't exactly a stranger to the Brethren.
If it makes you all feel good to think that it is all cronism, go right ahead. There is plenty of work to do in the kingdom. And the worker is worthy of his hire.
charity wrote:If it makes you all feel good to think that it is all cronism, go right ahead. There is plenty of work to do in the kingdom. And the worker is worthy of his hire.
Doesn't make me feel good or bad. It just is what it is: an old-boys network made of prominent families and social and business connections. Always has been since the days when the Smith and Whitmer families ran everything.
charity wrote:If it makes you all feel good to think that it is all cronism, go right ahead. There is plenty of work to do in the kingdom. And the worker is worthy of his hire.
Actually, what concerns me more is that there are no "salt of the earth," blue-collar apostles, as there were during Christ's ministry. Instead, they are all CEOs, or former Supreme Court Judges, etc. It seems they are chosen on the basis of business and administrative acumen, rather than spiritual gifts.
charity wrote:If it makes you all feel good to think that it is all cronism, go right ahead. There is plenty of work to do in the kingdom. And the worker is worthy of his hire.
Actually, what concerns me more is that there are no "salt of the earth," blue-collar apostles, as there were during Christ's ministry. Instead, they are all CEOs, or former Supreme Court Judges, etc. It seems they are chosen on the basis of business and administrative acumen, rather than spiritual gifts.
Perhaps there are simply not enough salt of the earth types who are willing to put on a suit and tie every day, leave their wives and families for far more than 8 hours a day 5 days a week, work tirelessly until they die with no retirement and no vacations, and kiss up to the enormous egos that inhabit the quorum currently.
charity wrote:If it makes you all feel good to think that it is all cronism, go right ahead. There is plenty of work to do in the kingdom. And the worker is worthy of his hire.
It is cronyism, you blind fool. Its preferential treatment to those within the "second anointing" country club. Get that in your head past all the stale potato flakes. Its an old boys club used to create a social network that feeds off of the dupes joe created. They control the money. They do with it as they want to without a care for what is ethical.
When building a mall is done over spending upwards of 1.5 Billion to the poor on b***s*** pretext of "beautifying downtown". How the hell do you people not see this? You are in a cult, Joseph didn't do anything he miraculously claimed happen and these cronies run your lives and suck you dry.
Charyou tree. Burn them at the F****** stake.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
charity wrote:You left out Elder Uchtdorf. Care to explain him?
Oh yeah the one with the giant head(literally).
Good point charity. Why would they pull a representative from a region of the globe where the membership in LDS Inc is not only very very small, but is also shrinking instead of a Mexican from the area of the globe where the growth is supposedly fan-friggin-tastic?
Doctor Steuss wrote:Wasn’t it J. Golden Kimball that said something about the ways that someone is called… there is relation and revelation. The former sometimes Trump's the latter.
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"Some people say a person receives a position in this church through revelation, and others say they get it through inspiration, but I say they get it through relation. If I hadn't been related to Heber C. Kimball I wouldn't have been a damn thing in this church." - J. Golden Kimball
CaliforniaKid wrote:"Some people say a person receives a position in this church through revelation, and others say they get it through inspiration, but I say they get it through relation. If I hadn't been related to Heber C. Kimball I wouldn't have been a damn thing in this church." - J. Golden Kimball
The aside joke to that is that when Spencer Kimball was called, he was shocked. He thought the leaders would never risk another Kimball in the leadership after J. Golden. (insert smiley here)