charity wrote:I think you could examine the RLDS, now Community of Christ, organization. Not much is left of the RLDS, but their buildings and all were taken over by the CoC group, sort of an internal coup.
LOL. The diehard RLDS'ers would say the same thing about what the Brighamites did with the church Joseph Smith organized.
Were you aware of Slaughter Sunday, when the RLDS bishops got to their church buildings and found the locks changed?
Those members who stayed in Nauvoo and eventually became RLDS had all the property that the LDS had to leave as they were forced out of Nauvoo. Actually, there weren't any RLDS until 1872.
Yes, ma'am, I'm well aware of RLDS history.
The road is beautiful, treacherous, and full of twists and turns.
charity wrote:Those members who stayed in Nauvoo and eventually became RLDS had all the property that the LDS had to leave as they were forced out of Nauvoo. Actually, there weren't any RLDS until 1872.
If some of the LDS members stayed in Nauvoo, unharmed, (and we know they did), then I don't see how you can say that any if them were forced to leave. (Yes, I know the whole story--blah,blah,blah. I think it's as holey as the idea that Joseph was martyred). They only left because Brigham told them to.
charity wrote:I think you could examine the RLDS, now Community of Christ, organization. Not much is left of the RLDS, but their buildings and all were taken over by the CoC group, sort of an internal coup.
LOL. The diehard RLDS'ers would say the same thing about what the Brighamites did with the church Joseph Smith organized.
Were you aware of Slaughter Sunday, when the RLDS bishops got to their church buildings and found the locks changed?
Those members who stayed in Nauvoo and eventually became RLDS had all the property that the LDS had to leave as they were forced out of Nauvoo. Actually, there weren't any RLDS until 1872.
Yes, ma'am, I'm well aware of RLDS history.
Then why did you make the comment you did? As though the "Brighamites" had taken all the property?
charity wrote:I think you could examine the RLDS, now Community of Christ, organization. Not much is left of the RLDS, but their buildings and all were taken over by the CoC group, sort of an internal coup.
LOL. The diehard RLDS'ers would say the same thing about what the Brighamites did with the church Joseph Smith organized.
Were you aware of Slaughter Sunday, when the RLDS bishops got to their church buildings and found the locks changed?
Those members who stayed in Nauvoo and eventually became RLDS had all the property that the LDS had to leave as they were forced out of Nauvoo. Actually, there weren't any RLDS until 1872.
Yes, ma'am, I'm well aware of RLDS history.
Then why did you make the comment you did? As though the "Brighamites" had taken all the property?
I think she was referring to Brigham co-opting the church, rather than property. At least, that's how I interpreted her statement.
charity wrote:I think you could examine the RLDS, now Community of Christ, organization. Not much is left of the RLDS, but their buildings and all were taken over by the CoC group, sort of an internal coup.
They never were big to begin with. Mormonism is next.
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning
harmony wrote:I think she was referring to Brigham co-opting the church, rather than property. At least, that's how I interpreted her statement.
There was nothing to co-opt. Everyone who wanted to follow Brigham Young did. Everyone had the option to stay behind. All they had to do was to announce they had left the Church, the mobs backed off. There was no co-opting. If they really felt that Brigham Young had no authority, it was a lot easier on them than trekking across the Great American Desert.
JAK:
And the first known use of the term Latter Day Saint was not until 1834.
Doctrinal shifts are moving right along.
JAK: Charity had referred to 1872 regarding the RLDS. That represented a doctrinal shift from the previous LDS. Since the beginning of the Protestant Reformation (1517), we have a history of doctrinal shifts in that Protestant movement. We can find more than 1,000 denominations, sects, and cults in the Christian religion.
For example:
“Some Christians commit a great deal of energy debating precisely which of the 1,000 or so North American faith groups are Christian and which are either sub-Christian, quasi-Christian, non-Christian or even anti-Chrisitan. There are probably hundreds of lists of valid Christian denominations in existence -- all different.” source
Hence, doctrinal shifts are underway as we speak. With each group, small or large in membership or wealth, comes a claim to be unique. Each wishes to project that it captures some essence or value or correct view which the others, all others have missed.
Therefore, we can trace historically the evolution of doctrinal shifts found in Christianity.