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Moral Superiority to Gentiles

 
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Post by _Trevor »

bcspace wrote:Yes because our morality extends to knowing God and what He wants. Theirs do not. It's a natural implication of being the only true and God-authorized Church.


There you have it folks.
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Yes because our morality extends to knowing God and what He wants. Theirs do not. It's a natural implication of being the only true and God-authorized Church.

There you have it folks.


Indeed. Either the Church is what it claims to be, or it's not. It's really that simple.
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bcspace wrote:
Yes because our morality extends to knowing God and what He wants. Theirs do not. It's a natural implication of being the only true and God-authorized Church.

There you have it folks.


Indeed. Either the Church is what it claims to be, or it's not. It's really that simple.


How about if it's NOT what is claims to be? Isn't that actually a consideration? I'm assuming it is since that's stated, at times.

Why would those that are LDS ever assume that the other faiths actually do not have the direct red phone line to God?

So, LDS are better than the other faiths 'cause God tells them what to do? What does God tell LDS to do that other faiths (or gentiles) are not doing?

I want it broken down since no one offered up anything other than the WoW and abstaining from pre-marital sex in my other morality thread. What precisely are the actions that make LDS morally superior?
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A likely man is a likely man, and a good man is a good man, whether in this Church or out of it; and a poor, miserable, sinful creature who gathers as a Saint, is worse than one who gathers as a Gentile. A person who is a thief, a liar, and a murderer in his heart, but professes to be a Saint, is more odious in the sight of God, angels and good men, than a person who comes out and openly declares that he is our enemy. I know how to take such a man, but a devil with a Saint's cloak on is one of the meanest characters you can imagine. I say, blessings on the head of a wicked Gentile who is my avowed enemy, far sooner than upon an enemy cloaked with a Saint's profession. (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 3:120)
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How about if it's NOT what is claims to be? Isn't that actually a consideration? I'm assuming it is since that's stated, at times.


Sure. Problem is (and I really don't think it's a problem), I've been down all those rabbit holes and came back up still knowing the Church is true.

Why would those that are LDS ever assume that the other faiths actually do not have the direct red phone line to God?


Because of our doctrine.

So, LDS are better than the other faiths 'cause God tells them what to do? What does God tell LDS to do that other faiths (or gentiles) are not doing?


To enter at the straight gate and believe the correct doctrines. Often the difference is simply a matter of bathing in the river seven times or looking at the serpent on the staff (these are Biblical allegories). If you can't do those simple things, your pride and disbelief prevent you from being morally superior. In such a case one is not receptive to the Spirit which leads to all truth.

I want it broken down since no one offered up anything other than the WoW and abstaining from pre-marital sex in my other morality thread. What precisely are the actions that make LDS morally superior?


The above example has to do with obedience to God. There are many other things such as the doctrines which explain who we are and where we came from. There is a HUGE difference between people who don't believe in God and those who know they are Gods in embryo. One makes decisions based on cynicism and the other based on positive hope.

I see the difference on these boards every day. It's the same difference that exists out in the real world.
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Post by _Mercury »

bcspace wrote:
Yes because our morality extends to knowing God and what He wants. Theirs do not. It's a natural implication of being the only true and God-authorized Church.

There you have it folks.


Indeed. Either the Church is what it claims to be, or it's not. It's really that simple.


The church is not what it claims to be. Your worldview/ego has no basis in reality, your arrogance is showing. Better fix that.
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Post by _LifeOnaPlate »

Mercury wrote:Your worldview/ego has no basis in reality, your arrogance is showing.


This is incoherent.
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LifeOnaPlate wrote:
A likely man is a likely man, and a good man is a good man, whether in this Church or out of it; and a poor, miserable, sinful creature who gathers as a Saint, is worse than one who gathers as a Gentile. A person who is a thief, a liar, and a murderer in his heart, but professes to be a Saint, is more odious in the sight of God, angels and good men, than a person who comes out and openly declares that he is our enemy. I know how to take such a man, but a devil with a Saint's cloak on is one of the meanest characters you can imagine. I say, blessings on the head of a wicked Gentile who is my avowed enemy, far sooner than upon an enemy cloaked with a Saint's profession. (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 3:120)


JOD? You're just taking that out of context and it is probably not what he really said since it was written by a scribe. Besides, it was written to a different people at a different time. That is why we are instructed to follow the living prophets.

I'm just kidding you. ;)
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Post by _Scottie »

I voted non-Mormon and thought I was morally superior.

Although I didn't recognize my arrogance until after I had left, I now am ashamed to look back and see just how arrogant I was.

Of course, I was raised in a very us vs them culture. You could count the number of non-Mormons on one hand in my high school. So I do place at least some blame my upbringing.

I remember I had a catholic friend and it always creeped me out SOO bad to go to his house. With the statues of Mary and the crucifixes on the wall. WEIRD!! Where were the pics of Ezra Taft Benson and Joseph Smith like all the other houses???
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Post by _LifeOnaPlate »

John Larsen wrote:
LifeOnaPlate wrote:
A likely man is a likely man, and a good man is a good man, whether in this Church or out of it; and a poor, miserable, sinful creature who gathers as a Saint, is worse than one who gathers as a Gentile. A person who is a thief, a liar, and a murderer in his heart, but professes to be a Saint, is more odious in the sight of God, angels and good men, than a person who comes out and openly declares that he is our enemy. I know how to take such a man, but a devil with a Saint's cloak on is one of the meanest characters you can imagine. I say, blessings on the head of a wicked Gentile who is my avowed enemy, far sooner than upon an enemy cloaked with a Saint's profession. (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 3:120)


JOD? You're just taking that out of context and it is probably not what he really said since it was written by a scribe. Besides, it was written to a different people at a different time. That is why we are instructed to follow the living prophets.

I'm just kidding you. ;)


You forgot to post a link and a picture, John, come on.

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The stars are setting and the caravan
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