LifeOnaPlate wrote:Premortality takes place in the Celestial Kingdom? This is news to me.
Since we were with God and the location of exalted beings is the Celestial Kingdom, it naturally follows.
No it doesn't. The Kingdoms represent degrees of glory.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Premortality takes place in the Celestial Kingdom? This is news to me.
And where do you suppose we lived as pre-Earth beings?
The spirit world?
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Premortality takes place in the Celestial Kingdom? This is news to me.
Where do you believe Elohim and his harem of eternal companions live?
Do you hypothesize that you lived somewhere else?
Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Premortality takes place in the Celestial Kingdom? This is news to me.
And where do you suppose we lived as pre-Earth beings?
The spirit world?
We are told incessantly that the ultimate aim of mortality is to enable us to "Return to live with God again". The location to which we are to return is the Celestial Kingdom. How is it a return if we weren't there to begin with?
Are you really trying to argue about this? To what end? Because you think, perhaps, it might get your made-up theology out of a bit of an intellectual jam? You know you're doing this. You're smarter than this, LOAP. You don't need to play these kinds of games. Free yourself from the false cosmology which requires that you, too, play with half your brain tied behind your back.
Mormonism ceased being a compelling topic for me when I finally came to terms with its transformation from a personality cult into a combination of a real estate company, a SuperPac, and Westboro Baptist Church. - Kishkumen
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Premortality takes place in the Celestial Kingdom? This is news to me.
Since we were with God and the location of exalted beings is the Celestial Kingdom, it naturally follows.
No it doesn't. The Kingdoms represent degrees of glory.
The endless insistence by apologists that nothing logically follows from anything else is really quite annoying. It my make apologists feel clever but it makes them look like 4 year olds.
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Premortality takes place in the Celestial Kingdom? This is news to me.
Where do you believe Elohim and his harem of eternal companions live?
I don't know. Where would one hide ten bajillion people?
Do you hypothesize that you lived somewhere else?
I already told you where I hypothesize we were.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
Sethbag wrote:Are you really trying to argue about this? To what end? Because you think, perhaps, it might get your made-up theology out of a bit of an intellectual jam?
"Presence of God" and "Celestial Kingdom" are not synonymous. You infer that they are, but there are no sources suggesting that such is explicitly the case. You don't believe either of them exist to begin with.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Premortality takes place in the Celestial Kingdom? This is news to me.
Since we were with God and the location of exalted beings is the Celestial Kingdom, it naturally follows.
No it doesn't. The Kingdoms represent degrees of glory.
The endless insistence by apologists that nothing logically follows from anything else is really quite annoying. It my make apologists feel clever but it makes them look like 4 year olds.
A 4-year-old who is looking forward to pizza, your treat, incidentally.
One moment in annihilation's waste, one moment, of the well of life to taste- The stars are setting and the caravan starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste! -Omar Khayaam
LifeOnaPlate wrote:Pre-existence is a misnomer (sometimes used even by LDS leaders.) Premortal life, antemortal existence, etc. are more accurate terms.
How is it more accurate if you just use synonyms?
And crawling on the planet's face Some insects called the human race Lost in time And lost in space...and meaning