Why discourage cremation?

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_Inconceivable
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Why the Dedication of Graves..

Post by _Inconceivable »

Many Mormon funerals end with the Dedication of the Grave:

"Consecrating this site as the resting place for the mortal body of brother or sister so and so.. until the morning of the First Resurrection"

Ridiculous notion.

Joseph and Hyrum Smith's remains were exumed 50+ years after their deaths and after it was revealed by a Mormon prophet that they had been resurrected and exalted.

There is no need for a dedicated resting spot for remains. Resurrection will not require them.

A grave site is technically only a place of memorial - that's all. No more, no less.

So to get around to answering your question:

Discouraging cremation just shows the ignorance of the history or the church by both the leaders and followers.

There ought to be a law against wairing that stupid looking cap and gown (with the fig leaf satan commanded you to wear).
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Re: Why the Dedication of Graves..

Post by _Dr. Shades »

Inconceivable wrote:Joseph and Hyrum Smith's remains were exumed 50+ years after their deaths and after it was revealed by a Mormon prophet that they had been resurrected and exalted.


I hate to do this, but which prophet revealed that, and when?

That's the first I've heard of any such thing.
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Post by _The Nehor »

I don't know why. I've heard that it's disrespectful because the body is first consumend in flame and then the remains put through a 'processor'. Personally, I want to be stuffed.
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Post by _Bond...James Bond »

I'm for cremation. I don't like the idea of being eaten by worms.

As to the issue, I assumed it had to do with destroying the body given by God which was needed to be raised in the Millenium [from an evanglical Restoration point of view]. Of course it's God and he can put the pieces back together but not to disrespect God is the main point.
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Post by _truth dancer »

Hey KA,


I have always wanted to be cremated with my ashes given to the ocean, and as a little memorial sort of thing, a park bench donated to a children's library.

But here are some other alternatives...

Maybe you could live on as a precious jewel? They seriously use YOUR carbon from YOUR body to create a diamond.

http://www.lifegem.com/

And then there is a natural burial which I quite like, very environmentally friendly and peaceful.

http://naturalburial.org/index.php

The whole idea about an actual body being resurrected never made sense given that we are continually becoming some new creature literally every second of every day, the matter used for our bodies is the very same matter than has been used for all of life throughout the history of our planet.

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Post by _skippy the dead »

I'm also planning on being scattered in the ocean.

But I might want to do what this guy did:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -tube.html

It suits me.
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Post by _Sethbag »

I wish I could pay for my body to be loaded into some kind of capsule and fired into the sun. Then I would make Brigham Young's speculation about people on the Sun only mostly ridiculous. ;-)
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Post by _KimberlyAnn »

truth dancer wrote:Maybe you could live on as a precious jewel? They seriously use YOUR carbon from YOUR body to create a diamond.

http://www.lifegem.com/

And then there is a natural burial which I quite like, very environmentally friendly and peaceful.

http://naturalburial.org/index.php


Those are interesting alternatives, TD!

If I die while my children are still young, I want someone to scatter my ashes in the back yard when the girls aren't home. If they were to know, they might freak out or worry, and I'd not want that. The back yard is where they laugh and play, and where I'd choose to be were I alive, so why not have my ashes there? I know I'll neither know nor care at that point, but I like the idea of it now, and that's what counts.

If I die as an old lady, then I don't care what happens with my ashes, really. Whatever pleases the girls.

KA
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Post by _krose »

I've put together an itinerary for my "ashes tour" for my survivors. It's basically a list of my favorite places in the world, where I would like to have a cup or spoonful of myself remain. We've had some fun putting it together.

Some of the highlights:
- North coast of Spain
- Black Forest in Germany
- Mt Fuji and a cherry grove in Japan
- Yosemite, Denali, Glacier Bay and Bryce Canyon parks
- Maui
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Post by _Gadianton »

What it comes down to is that church members like to visualize the body of their newly deceased rising up from the grave and being zapped with an energy beam from God, and cremation seems foreign and out of place because it destroys that visual. I like the idea of cremation because honestly, the thought of my body lingering on, rotting, and being eaten by worms is far less appealing than disintegrating it. Seems cleaner.
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