Can a leftist be considered a faithful Latter Day Saint?

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Was the late President Faust a true leftist, or did he somehow not qualify as a true Scotsman due to the way he ate porrige?
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While I think a few of those items on your list are pretty diametrically opposed to what the LDS Church teaches I do not recall any temple recommend questions about any of those things nor about political ideology at all.

I think that is enough to answer the question that is the topic of this thread.
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Jason Bourne wrote:While I think a few of those items on your list are pretty diametrically opposed to what the LDS Church teaches I do not recall any temple recommend questions about any of those things nor about political ideology at all.

I think that is enough to answer the question that is the topic of this thread.



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Jason now adopts Harmony's tactic of "don't ask, don't tell" regarding actual personal beliefs and their relationship to the Gospel.

The nice thing about this is that, as Jason has just pointed out, debate and discussion can now be short circuited and brought to a safe and comfortable end.
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Droopy wrote:Tarski, was the sexual revolution and its associated philosophical components a phenomena of the late sixties and early seventies cultural and political Left or not?

Sexual revolution. Ooooh. Scary.
Ask gay drug addict rightwing pastor Ted Haggard. I wish I could see you and my friend from the sixties have an ideological lovefest. He was a pro-Nixon conservative that did nothing but torture me with his right-wing rhetoric. He often pontificated about the sexual depravity of the left.
Well, I went to college and he became a millionaire businessman and remained an outspoken conservative. I lost touch with him but found out later that he died of AIDS. Turns out that like so many (including my childhood Bishop) he was a hypocrit (He was quite actively homosexual).

Do you feel left out. Nothing came your way during the so called sexual revolution?



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Sexual revolution. Ooooh. Scary.


Yes, it was, to the morally and spiritually literate.


Ask gay drug addict rightwing pastor Ted Haggard. I wish I could see you and my friend from the sixties have an ideological lovefest. He was a pro-Nixon conservative that did nothing but torture me with his right-wing rhetoric. He often pontificated about the sexual depravity of the left.
Well, I went to college and he became a millionaire businessman and remained an outspoken conservative. I lost touch with him but found out later that he died of AIDS. Turns out that like so many (including my childhood Bishop) he was a hypocrit (He was quite actively homosexual).

Do you feel left out. Nothing came your way during the so called sexual revolution?


Thanks, you've answered my question (unbeknown to you perhaps) quite adequately thank you. I'm glad we see eye to eye on this point.
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Not a single serious, reflective, or challenging response to this thread so far.

Standard fare.
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Droopy wrote:Jason now adopts Harmony's tactic of "don't ask, don't tell" regarding actual personal beliefs and their relationship to the Gospel.

The nice thing about this is that, as Jason has just pointed out, debate and discussion can now be short circuited and brought to a safe and comfortable end.


Nice dodge droopy. In the Church carrying a temple recommend and being worthy to enter the temple is considered a fairly substantial thing. Do you disagree? Have you ever given temple recommend interviews? What is the directive given to the person doing the interview regarding such interviews? It is this-Don't deviate from the listed questions. There are no questions about political positions.

No if you were not so quick to pounce and be an ass maybe you would have noticed I said in my opinion there are a number of items on your list I think are incompatible with claims to be a believing LDS. But that is my view. The Church has no position on political ideology for members and does not require political positions of certain flavor. What I do know is people that insist that there is a political ideology required are more outside the doctrines of the gospel and the position of leadership on this issue then those they want to push out.
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Nice dodge droopy. In the Church carrying a temple recommend and being worthy to enter the temple is considered a fairly substantial thing. Do you disagree? Have you ever given temple recommend interviews? What is the directive given to the person doing the interview regarding such interviews? It is this-Don't deviate from the listed questions. There are no questions about political positions.

No if you were not so quick to pounce and be an ass maybe you would have noticed I said in my opinion there are a number of items on your list I think are incompatible with claims to be a believing LDS. But that is my view. The Church has no position on political ideology for members and does not require political positions of certain flavor. What I do know is people that insist that there is a political ideology required are more outside the doctrines of the gospel and the position of leadership on this issue then those they want to push out.


Let's try point number one...
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I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

- Thomas Sowell
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Droopy wrote:
Nice dodge droopy. In the Church carrying a temple recommend and being worthy to enter the temple is considered a fairly substantial thing. Do you disagree? Have you ever given temple recommend interviews? What is the directive given to the person doing the interview regarding such interviews? It is this-Don't deviate from the listed questions. There are no questions about political positions.

No if you were not so quick to pounce and be an ass maybe you would have noticed I said in my opinion there are a number of items on your list I think are incompatible with claims to be a believing LDS. But that is my view. The Church has no position on political ideology for members and does not require political positions of certain flavor. What I do know is people that insist that there is a political ideology required are more outside the doctrines of the gospel and the position of leadership on this issue then those they want to push out.


Let's try point number one...


oh let's.
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