Can Mormon garments protect you from physical harm?
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Nehor, you were just seriously explaining why an analogy involving Loony Toons characters was false and now you're quibbling about "mental gymnastics"?
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Angus, you just read a post by Nehor and imagined that the contents were serious and without sarcasm?
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Angus McAwesome wrote:Nehor, you were just seriously explaining why an analogy involving Loony Toons characters was false and now you're quibbling about "mental gymnastics"?
I didn't bring up an inane cartoon example. I was pointing out how it didn't fit. You're the one who brought it here. And.....for the record I think my rebuttal is about as serious as the original suggestion.
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I voted Yes, they can. Let me explain. I saw a presentation once, in my National Guard unit, of an AH-64 Apache that had a refueling accident and the aircraft was engulfed in a fire while on the ground. The two aircrew managed to escape from the cockpits and basically ran out of a fireball and were badly burned.
They showed some slides showing the burns on their skin, and it was interesting that where their t-shirts and underwear were under their flightsuits, their burns were not as bad. This is because as flimsy as the shirts and underwear were, they were an additional layer between the flames and their skin, and since they were only exposed to the flames for a few seconds, it was enough to significantly reduce their burns in those locations.
So, in theory, cotton garments can in fact help reduce the severity of burns on someone who was exposed only briefly to an intense flame. Not by magic though. And it wouldn't matter if they were "worthy" or not, either.
They showed some slides showing the burns on their skin, and it was interesting that where their t-shirts and underwear were under their flightsuits, their burns were not as bad. This is because as flimsy as the shirts and underwear were, they were an additional layer between the flames and their skin, and since they were only exposed to the flames for a few seconds, it was enough to significantly reduce their burns in those locations.
So, in theory, cotton garments can in fact help reduce the severity of burns on someone who was exposed only briefly to an intense flame. Not by magic though. And it wouldn't matter if they were "worthy" or not, either.
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I voted "no", but perhaps a more accurate response would be "No, unless you're a Marriott."
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Sethbag wrote:I voted Yes, they can. Let me explain. ... they were an additional layer between the flames and their skin, and since they were only exposed to the flames for a few seconds, it was enough to significantly reduce their burns in those locations.
So, in theory, cotton garments can in fact help reduce the severity of burns on someone who was exposed only briefly to an intense flame. Not by magic though. And it wouldn't matter if they were "worthy" or not, either.
You are Right. Most of the time though a Chapel Mormon will believe that there was something super natural about the garment.
On my mission in California right before I arrived a group of Mormon Missionaries where robbed in the Church one morning while they were having District Leader Meeting. I talked to one Missionary who was robbed and tied up. He finally got loose and was afraid they still might be in the building so he broke a window and climbed out of it and received a nasty cut on his leg but guess where the cut stopped? Yes right at his Garment line which protected him. Guess he should've been wearing the full length garments and he would have been protected better.
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The Nehor wrote:No, they can't. Faith and obedience (i.e. keeping your covenants by wearing them) can and usually will.
I don't recall covenanting to wear them. I remember being told that if I wore them they would protect me. But I don't recall me promising to wear them.
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The Nehor wrote:I didn't bring up an inane cartoon example. I was pointing out how it didn't fit. You're the one who brought it here. And.....for the record I think my rebuttal is about as serious as the original suggestion.
I don't know how to feel about Nehor complaining about something being inane.
But you're right about the seriousness of the original suggestion... lighten up man.
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GoodK wrote:The Nehor wrote:I didn't bring up an inane cartoon example. I was pointing out how it didn't fit. You're the one who brought it here. And.....for the record I think my rebuttal is about as serious as the original suggestion.
I don't know how to feel about Nehor complaining about something being inane.
But you're right about the seriousness of the original suggestion... lighten up man.
I never got serious.
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They may lessen the severity of a rug burn under some very specific circumstances.
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