Spot the flaw in logic

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Re: Spot the flaw in logic

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bcspace wrote:
Ray's post is the height of yellow journalism as is his wont.

Jacob 3 is not a whole chapter against plural marriage, if anything, it speaks more to the fact that one should not be engaging in homosexual relations as these always fall under the definition of fornication and adultery.

Ray also fails to mention that plural marriage is acceptable when sanctioned by God in the same book.

This illustrates the fact that the only way to bash the LDS Church is to invent a church that doesn't exist and call it LDS.


Perhaps you didn't understand that Jacob 3 is a qualification of Jacob 2 from:

6 Yea, it grieveth my soul and causeth me to shrink with shame before the presence of my Maker, that I must testify unto you concerning the wickedness of your hearts.
7 And also it grieveth me that I must use so much boldness of speech concerning you, before your wives and your children, many of whose feelings are exceedingly tender and chaste and delicate before God, which thing is pleasing unto God;


And just before Jacob 3:

35 Behold, ye have done greater iniquities than the Lamanites, our brethren. Ye have broken the hearts of your tender wives, and lost the confidence of your children, because of your bad examples before them; and the sobbings of their hearts ascend up to God against you. And because of the strictness of the word of God, which cometh down against you, many hearts died, pierced with deep wounds.


Jacob 3:5:

5 Behold, the Lamanites your brethren, whom ye hate because of their filthiness and the cursing which hath come upon their skins, are more righteous than you; for they have not forgotten the commandment of the Lord, which was given unto our father—that they should have save it were one wife, and concubines they should have none, and there should not be whoredoms committed among them.


Jacob 3:10:

10 Wherefore, ye shall remember your children, how that ye have grieved their hearts because of the example that ye have set before them; and also, remember that ye may, because of your filthiness, bring your children unto destruction, and their sins be heaped upon your heads at the last day.


And no, Jacob 2:30 isn't a "sanction" for polygamy:

30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.


Any more than Nephi's killing of Laban is a "sanction" for murder.

So I repeat my question: When did God command the Nephites to practice polygamy? Which according to Joseph Smith, was given to Abraham as a commandment. Were the Nephites exempt from this eternal law?
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Re: Spot the flaw in logic

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Perhaps you didn't understand that Jacob 3 is a qualification of Jacob 2 from:


That's part of your problem. You didn't even mention Jacob 2 but said Jacob 3 was a treatise on the subject.

Jacob 3:5:


What about the whole chapter as implied in your original post? This actually is also a condemnation against homosexuality. Only one wife, no whoredoms, etc.

And no, Jacob 2:30 isn't a "sanction" for polygamy:

Any more than Nephi's killing of Laban is a "sanction" for murder.


How so?

For if I will, saith the Lord of hosts, cull the population.......

Apples to oranges dude.

So I repeat my question:


Which I have just shown to be the equivalent of "When are you going to stop beating your wife."
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_Ray A

Re: Spot the flaw in logic

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bcspace wrote:
That's part of your problem. You didn't even mention Jacob 2 but said Jacob 3 was a treatise on the subject.


Where did I say it was a "treatise" on the subject?
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Re: Spot the flaw in logic

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That's part of your problem. You didn't even mention Jacob 2 but said Jacob 3 was a treatise on the subject.

Where did I say it was a "treatise" on the subject?


When you asked for a whole chapter and erroneously presented Jacob 3 (a whole chapter) as an example of "God's opinion".
Machina Sublime
Satan's Plan Deconstructed.
Your Best Resource On Joseph Smith's Polygamy.
Conservatism is the Gospel of Christ and the Plan of Salvation in Action.
The Degeneracy Of Progressivism.
_Ray A

Re: Spot the flaw in logic

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bcspace wrote:
When you asked for a whole chapter and erroneously presented Jacob 3 (a whole chapter) as an example of "God's opinion".


I forgot. You are the lone and only correct interpreter of "God's opinion". And we all know that one can't be a Democrat and a true Mormon at the same time. Thus saith BC Space.
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