Mormons told to avoid faith-related arguments

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LifeOnaPlate wrote:I certainly believe his conference talk was true, correct, and right.


Good Lord LoP, how old are you? I saw you in that harrassing video of Kerry's, you aren't some 97 year old Geezer bearing his final testimony, you don't have to talk like it to impress anyone around here.
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How so? He used the term "unChristlike". Are you familiar with the Biblical descriptions of how Christ handled these situations? Do you know the difference between the Pharisess, the Sadducees, and the regular man on the street?

"Surely our Heavenly Father is saddened - and the devil laughs


So what is the extent of your knowledge of what is and is not Christlike?
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Gadianton wrote:
LifeOnaPlate wrote:I certainly believe his conference talk was true, correct, and right.


Good Lord LoP, how old are you? I saw you in that harrassing video of Kerry's, you aren't some 97 year old Geezer bearing his final testimony, you don't have to talk like it to impress anyone around here.


26. I'm being quite serious in saying I really enjoyed and agreed with his talk.

By the way, are you aware that the general way you communicate with people like me results in a sure-fire lack of true integrative dialog? Doesn't it bother you to be so "right" all the time? Doesn't it become tiresome to be surrounded by so many people you treat with contempt? I am asking sincerely, because from what I can see, you exhibit a general pattern of disdain for all who disagree with you. That could become awful monotonous or even ultimately lonely.
One moment in annihilation's waste,
one moment, of the well of life to taste-
The stars are setting and the caravan
starts for the dawn of nothing; Oh, make haste!

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"More regrettable than the [LDS] Church being accused of not being Christian is when church members react to such accusations in an un-Christlike way," Apostle Robert D. Hales said on the second day of the two-day conference. "Surely our Heavenly Father is saddened - and the devil laughs - when we contentiously debate doctrinal differences with our Christian neighbors."



I liked Elder Hales' talk. It took the high road. I liked the quote above especially well. I need to apply it better.
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Perhaps we should go over the various examples of Christ responding (or not) to antagonists. He certainly didn't get contentious with anyone, but he certainly put some of them in their place. While I'm quite familiar with the aspect being spoken of in the talk, whenever someone uses the term "Christlike" there is usually more than one aspect to take into account.


BC is equivocating in order to meet his own ends and means here. It is clear from the entire talk that Elder Hales is discouraging some of the type of mean and petty behavior many of us can be guilty of when engaging in religious debates.

Elder Hales also recommends that at times it is best to walk away rather than debate.
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Perhaps we should go over the various examples of Christ responding (or not) to antagonists. He certainly didn't get contentious with anyone, but he certainly put some of them in their place. While I'm quite familiar with the aspect being spoken of in the talk, whenever someone uses the term "Christlike" there is usually more than one aspect to take into account.

BC is equivocating in order to meet his own ends and means here.


Actually, it's the OP who's equivocating by making it sound like there can be no debate.

It is clear from the entire talk that Elder Hales is discouraging some of the type of mean and petty behavior many of us can be guilty of when engaging in religious debates.


A differentiation ignored by the OP.

Elder Hales also recommends that at times it is best to walk away rather than debate.


Not at all. He said "contentious debate". On top of that, you yourself are ignoring what Christlike behavior really is.
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Yeah, I'm considering retiring from the world of online apologetics and taking up turnip farming as a hobby instead.
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bcspace wrote:
"More regrettable than the [LDS] Church being accused of not being Christian is when church members react to such accusations in an un-Christlike way,"


Perhaps we should go over the various examples of Christ responding (or not) to antagonists. He certainly didn't get contentious with anyone, but he certainly put some of them in their place. While I'm quite familiar with the aspect being spoken of in the talk, whenever someone uses the term "Christlike" there is usually more than one aspect to take into account.

D&C 71:7

Hey, guess what...you're not Christ!! He gets to do things that you don't.
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The Nehor wrote:Yeah, I'm considering retiring from the world of online apologetics and taking up turnip farming as a hobby instead.

Dude, you're not helping your gay image here. Couldn't you have said restoring old Jeeps or something?? :)
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Re: Mormons told to avoid faith-related arguments

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LoP,

Virtually everyone here but you agrees with me.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.

LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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