Protest at Salt Lake Temple Fri., first hand perspective

[_Jersey Girl]

Gaz

Your missing the point Jersey. They have left the association that spawned those children and have entered into a relationship that is in direct conflict with what is right and proper.

I have no blessed clue what you're talking about, Gaz. Seriously, I don't. Gays (male/female) ARE children and HAVE children.

What "association" have they left? I don't know what you're saying to me.

You can't see that?

I'm not sure what you're trying to get me to see.

The relationship betwen a man and a woman is a blending of thoughts and values and strengths and weaknesses. There are differences between the sexes, and a proper marriage harmonizes those things. Children need to be brought up in an enviorment where that balance is respected and maintained. that's a foundational part of society as a whole.

Ohhhhhkaaay....Children need to be brought up in an environment where that balance is respected and maintained....ohhhhkaaaay......

You think that children need to be raised in a heterosexual environment where the balance of...harmonized thoughts, values, strengths and weaknesses are maintained?

What do you think happens to children who are not raised in that type of environment? What happens to the foundation of society when that doesn't happen?

(I'll tell you what the hestitations were in this post in a bit)

[_Danna]

Jersey,

A homosexual DOES have a father and can also BE a father.

You seem to think there are no homosexuals who are parenting their own children or even HAVE children.

Your missing the point Jersey. They have left the association that spawned those children and have entered into a relationship that is in direct conflict with what is right and proper.

You can't see that? The relationship betwen a man and a woman is a blending of thoughts and values and strengths and weaknesses. There are differences between the sexes, and a proper marriage harmonizes those things. Children need to be brought up in an enviorment where that balance is respected and maintained. that's a foundational part of society as a whole.

I am just thinking about how children are/were raised in many polygamous households (e.g. Brigham Young, and many early church leaders): two or more mothers taking charge, and a father who drops by every now and then. And in some cases did not know the names of his children.

The whole 'kids need a dad' thing is not a valid argument in the mouth of a Mormon. It seems one, two, or more mothers is the traditional parental unit.

[_Jersey Girl]

Okay, I don't have all freakin' night, Gaz. Thinking about your above post, you seem to resort to stereotypes rather than engage in thought.

What I get from your post is that you think gays who have children have left the relationship that created those children in favor of their gay relationship and that's a detriment to children.

Do I have that right so far?

[_Ray A]

I am just thinking about how children are/were raised in many polygamous households (e.g. Brigham Young, and many early church leaders): two or more mothers taking charge, and a father who drops by every now and then. And in some cases did not know the names of his children.

The whole 'kids need a dad' thing is not a valid argument in the mouth of a Mormon. It seems one, two, or more mothers is the traditional parental unit.

That's why Compton's book was titled In Sacred Loneliness.

With 56 wives and numerous children, Brigham could be excused for not remembering all their names.

[_Gazelam]

Do I have that right so far?

Yes

[_Jersey Girl]

Do I have that right so far?

Yes

Thank you.

[_Ray A]

Okay, I don't have all freakin' night, Gaz. Thinking about your above post, you seem to resort to stereotypes rather than engage in thought.

What I get from your post is that you think gays who have children have left the relationship that created those children in favor of their gay relationship and that's a detriment to children.

Do I have that right so far?

Gaz replied "yes" to this.

So what about the 50% plus divorce rate, Gaz? Should divorce be outlawed?

[_Jersey Girl]

Okay, I don't have all freakin' night, Gaz. Thinking about your above post, you seem to resort to stereotypes rather than engage in thought.

What I get from your post is that you think gays who have children have left the relationship that created those children in favor of their gay relationship and that's a detriment to children.

Do I have that right so far?

Okay, Gaz. You said I had it right.

Okay...so according to your logic (I'm being kind) every non-custodial parent on the face of the planet fails to parent their children.

As in...every gay non-custodial parent fails to parent theirs.

Are you insane?

First off, there are gays who have custody of their own children. Gays who are non-custodial parents.

Just like there are hetero's who have custody of their own children and who are non-custodial parents.

What makes you think that it's impossible for a two (separated, divorced, never married) adults to co-parent their child?

Is it impossible for two (separated, divorced, never married) HETERO'S to co-parent their child?

You're dealing in stereotypical thinking Gaz which is non-thinking.

[_Jersey Girl]

Ray

So what about the 50% plus divorce rate, Gaz? Should divorce be outlawed?

Great minds....;-P

[_Ray A]

Great minds....;-P

"Practical and logical" minds seems more apposite to me, Jersey Girl.