Is the Constitution Hanging by a Thread?

[_SatanWasSetUp]

Ha ha ha. Can you imagine the suits in SLC arriving in DC to save the country? What are they going to do, storm the White House armed with Book of Mormons?

Besides, don't we already have enough old white guys in fancy suits who avoid direct questions and spin the facts while telling the public what they think they want to hear. They're called politicians in DC, and General Authorities in SLC. Does it really matter which group is put in charge of the country? If I have to choose the lesser of two evils, I would probably choose the ones that were voted in by constituents from all 50 states, instead of the ones who were sustained by the upraised hand of their religious followers.

[_John Larsen]

Hanging from what?

[_collegeterrace]

Yeah, I heard that on Beck as well.

All political talk shows are the same.

Religions, too.

Really? Even the one you bad mouth on these boards, but continue to pay 10% of your income in the form of tithes?

Tell us cinepro, do you believe that the Mormon church is true?

Or is it just a good way to raise a family?

[_John Larsen]

Hanging from what?

This sort of thing bugs me because it is completely meaningless and has no bearing on the real world. "Hanging by a thread" can be interpreted to mean absolutely anything and thus nothing. It is classic Mormon "modern revelation" weasel wording. You are never actually pinned down to any actual occurrence and it could always feasibly happen in the future.

[_harmony]

The saving's already been done.

[_Inconceivable]

Hanging from what?

That's a good question, John.

Let me list just a few books here:

The Book of Mormon ( ? )
An Enemy Hath Done This (Benson)
Witness and a Warning (Benson)
The Naked Communist (Skousen)
The Naked Capitalist (Skousen)
None Dare Call it Conspiracy (Allen) (Quote by Benson on the back cover)
None Dare Call it Treason (Stormer)

The hanging constitution is a reference to conspiracy and corruption that undermines the laws of a free society. The Book of Mormon goes into great detail concerning secret combinations (organized crime, secret societies).

Secret combinations were what brought down the government of the fictitious nation of the Nephites before Jesus drowned, burned, crushed and otherwise slaughtered the wicked and their children of the Americas (LGT? whatever).

The Constitution has many similarities to what the writer of the Book of Mormon calls the voice of the people. When the people could not trust their leaders to uphold the laws the people had agreed upon, the integral fabric of the nation unravelled. Trust turned into anarchy and the people ultimately banded into tribes to protect themselves.

The assumption is that Mormon priesthood holders cannot be bought. They will uphold the laws of the heavenly banner (the constitution) by rooting out the corrupt and renewing order.

It all sounds pretty epic. However, I think the Mormons need to come to grips with their own conspiracies first before they can be seen with any credibility.

[_collegeterrace]

LDS Inc is the one hanging from a thread.

[_moksha]

Perhaps Mormon lawyer Steve Young will step up to the plate and help settle the constitutional conundrum facing California, with prayerful guidance from his wife.

[_moksha]

Of course, there is always a catch:

In General Conference in October 1918, Joseph Fielding Smith made the following comments:

I have discovered that people have copies of a purposed vision by the Prophet Joseph Smith given in Nauvoo, and some people are circulating this supposed vision, or revelation, or conversation which the prophet is reported to have held with a number of individuals in the city of Nauvoo. I want to say to you, my brethren and sisters, that if you understand the Church articles and covenants, if you will read the scriptures and become familiar with those things which are recorded in the revelations from the Lord, it will not be necessary for you to ask any questions in regard to the authenticity or otherwise of any purported revelation, vision, or manifestation that proceeds out of darkness, concocted in some corner, surreptitiously present, and not coming through the proper channels of the Church. Let me add that when a revelation comes for the guidance of this people, you may be sure that it will not be presented in some mysterious manner contrary to the order of the Church. It will go forth in such form that the people will understand that it comes from those who are in authority, for it will be sent either to the presidents of stakes and the bishops of the wars over the signatures of the presiding authorities. Or it will be published in some of the regular papers or magazines under the control and direction of the Church or it will be presented before such gatherings as this, at a general conference. It will not spring up in some distance part of the Church and be in the hands of some obscure individual without authority, and thus be circulated among the Latter-day Saints. . . .

His father and President of the Church, Joseph F. Smith, followed immediately after his speech and said:

The ridiculous story about the “red horse” and the black horse,” and the “white horse,” and a lot of trash that has been circulated about and printed and sent around as a great revelation given by the Prophet Joseph Smith, is a matter that was gotten up, I understand, some ten years ago after the death of the Prophet Joseph Smith, by two of our brethren who put together some broken sentences from the Prophet that they may have heard from time to time, and formulated this so-called revelation out of it, and it was never spoken by the prophet in the manner in which they have put it forth. It is simply false; that is all there is to it.

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[_cinepro]

Religions, too.

Really? Even the one you bad mouth on these boards, but continue to pay 10% of your income in the form of tithes?

Tell us cinepro, do you believe that the Mormon church is true?

Or is it just a good way to raise a family?

My comment was in reference to Scottie's remark about salesmanship, and I was just pointing out that religions have the same motivation to preach scenarios that make them the most relevant.

Not sure what this has to do with tithing, the Church's trueness, and how much the Church helps someone raise a family. But I suppose it could all be tied together for some people....?