Earth Shattering General Conference Talks???

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Re: Earth Shattering General Conference Talks???

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Uchdorf's talk was refreshing. It appears obvious he is not a Utah Mormon of the Old-boys club. That in itself shows promise of a broader social view, if nothing else. We'll see...


Even if he were the only apostle/prophet, I'd still predict your hope of changed doctrines will be dashed.
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Re: Earth Shattering General Conference Talks???

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bcspace wrote:
Uchdorf's talk was refreshing. It appears obvious he is not a Utah Mormon of the Old-boys club. That in itself shows promise of a broader social view, if nothing else. We'll see...


Even if he were the only apostle/prophet, I'd still predict your hope of changed doctrines will be dashed.


You might be correct (as well as right ;-) But being an optimist and aware of LDS' evolution through the years, I think in time--and with societal pressure--LDS doctrines will--if not be "changed"--they will not have the influence over coming generations schooled in more enlightened times.

So far I've seen Sunday Church hours changed; garment styles change; Temple practices change; Blacks receive Priesthood; women praying in Sac meetings...

These might not ALL be considered "doctrines", but they have effected attitudes, and have released this generation from the discomforts of past generations. Dark/old doctrines may remain on-the-books, but current practices identify the institution and its members. As I see things...
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Re: Earth Shattering General Conference Talks???

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Roger Morrison wrote:Since we have a window open, I'll ask you a question: When you look back on your mission do you feel any guilt or remorse for taking Mormonism into the lives of those who converted under your influence? Or, do you feel good in some/any degree about their new-life?

Hope you don't mind if I step in and respond to this, because I've given this some thought.

First off, my assumption (which, given the statistics, is very likely) is that everyone I converted quit not too long after I returned stateside. But I have definitely felt guilty for misleading people and for pressuring them into making commitments they didn't have enough information to make. I've felt the urge to correspond with them and tell them I was wrong, and that I now have much more respect for the religious traditions of their culture (Buddhism) than the one I taught them was the only way. I have not done so, of course.

However, to the extent that I was able to influence anyone to change self-destructive behavior (smoking, alcohol over-consumption), I'm happy for that. I'm also happy that I was occasionally able to offer friendship without conditions and expectations. I wish I could have done more of that.
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Re: Earth Shattering General Conference Talks???

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krose wrote:
Roger Morrison wrote:Since we have a window open, I'll ask you a question: When you look back on your mission do you feel any guilt or remorse for taking Mormonism into the lives of those who converted under your influence? Or, do you feel good in some/any degree about their new-life?

Hope you don't mind if I step in and respond to this, because I've given this some thought.

First off, my assumption (which, given the statistics, is very likely) is that everyone I converted quit not too long after I returned stateside. But I have definitely felt guilty for misleading people and for pressuring them into making commitments they didn't have enough information to make. I've felt the urge to correspond with them and tell them I was wrong, and that I now have much more respect for the religious traditions of their culture (Buddhism) than the one I taught them was the only way. I have not done so, of course.

However, to the extent that I was able to influence anyone to change self-destructive behavior (smoking, alcohol over-consumption), I'm happy for that. I'm also happy that I was occasionally able to offer friendship without conditions and expectations. I wish I could have done more of that.


Krose, thanks for coming in. Actually, I was thinking of making a New Topic on this suject. There must be thousands of RMs who think, and feel, as you do, while others who don't. Possibly Shades didn't respond because it was opening another topic, or maybe a sore spot??
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