Call it whatever you want. The bottom line is that you were begging for "substantive, philosophical" discussion, and then, when you got it, you "quit." That doesn't bespeak well of your intentions, or your "seriousness," Loran.
Call it what you want, I had just finished a rousing discussion on just that subject, and only came here to start a discussion. So did bc. If it died after I left it,. which I see it did, ending with Uncle Dale's
AirAmerica type leftist titty fit, that's really too bad. Especially as this was the second thread I started, the first thread having been derailed immediately by the likes of you and your mini me, Kishkumen (not to mention other perps).
This sentence doesn't make any sense. If you ever hope to achieve the "intellectual seriousness" you so crave, you are going to need to learn how to assemble a basic, grammatical sentence in English.
Waiting for intellectual seriousness from you and most of the inhabitants here would find me waiting for North American to subduct under the continental plate.
And did you respond to them? No. You didn't. You bailed.
Yes, and the thread died. Not my problem.