Islam in the United States, with Mormons
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Islam – Believes in the Practice of Polygamy.
Mormonism – Believes in the Practice of Polygamy.
Mormonism – Believes in the Practice of Polygamy.
"And I've said it before, you want to know what Joseph Smith looked like in Nauvoo, just look at Trump." - Fence Sitter
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Brackite wrote:Islam – Believes in the Practice of Polygamy.
Mormonism – Believes in the Practice of Polygamy.
And again, there you have it. That pretty well sums it all up.
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KimberlyAnn wrote:PS. I am still curious about the proxy baptisms of Muslims. I wonder what some of the more radical factions of Islam would think of it? A topic for another thread, I suppose.
They would hate it, and would probably kill some Mormons.
So I encourage any who may think that this would be an amusing club with which to beat Mormonism and its adherents to reflect long and hard before they make it a public issue.
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KimberlyAnn wrote:I cannot help but think, however, that perhaps it is the Mormons who should think long and hard before they baptize by proxy those of the Muslim faith.
I can promise you that the Church has thought long and hard about this matter.
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Daniel Peterson wrote:KimberlyAnn wrote:PS. I am still curious about the proxy baptisms of Muslims. I wonder what some of the more radical factions of Islam would think of it? A topic for another thread, I suppose.
They would hate it, and would probably kill some Mormons.
So I encourage any who may think that this would be an amusing club with which to beat Mormonism and its adherents to reflect long and hard before they make it a public issue.
You have publicly stated your inability to understand why members of the Jewish community should be upset over LDS proxy baptisms. If the Jewish community shouldn't care, why should Muslims? Can't you build a bridge to help Islam understand why this is either important for them or totally unimportant and meaningless? Besides, this is already a public issue for the Jewish community and Catholics. How long will it be before Muslims question the practice?
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Yong Xi wrote:You have publicly stated your inability to understand why members of the Jewish community should be upset over LDS proxy baptisms. If the Jewish community shouldn't care, why should Muslims?
They shouldn't.
Yong Xi wrote:Can't you build a bridge to help Islam understand why this is either important for them or totally unimportant and meaningless?
I probably could, with some. But the very act of making a public effort to do so would alert and inflame the radicals, with whom no dialogue is possible.
Yong Xi wrote:Besides, this is already a public issue for the Jewish community and Catholics. How long will it be before Muslims question the practice?
Some already have.
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Daniel, thanks for the link. Very interesting.
KA the burka is a hot button issue over here in the UK at the moment. There was a great debate on it last Sunday morning. There were quite a few Muslim scholars on, many of whom argue that the burka should be banned, and emphasising that it's use was perhaps confined to the prophets wives, but was originally not meant to be passed on to all and sundry. ie a lot is culture and later guidance rather than law.
Actually it was interesting, because the interviewer asked the woman committed to wearing the burka, that if she had to wear the covering because a man might be attracted to her, then why shouldn't men be covered so that women wouldn't be tempted to be attracted to them. She was actually speechless, and came back to the point that she wore it to be closer to the prophets wives and their tradition.
I just feel more and more, that it should be an obvious point that there is as much diversity, in Islam, in culture, belief and practice as there is in the Christian tradition. Many of the scholars who were on (one from Oxford as I remember) were very, very gentle and very liberal in their approach.
Just as a side point, nuns 'used' to pretty much, except for their face, (think Sister Act)go around covered from head to toe and nobody ever blinked an eye lid, but respected their garments (which I think were around 16th Century in origin) as a part of their commitment to their faith.
KA the burka is a hot button issue over here in the UK at the moment. There was a great debate on it last Sunday morning. There were quite a few Muslim scholars on, many of whom argue that the burka should be banned, and emphasising that it's use was perhaps confined to the prophets wives, but was originally not meant to be passed on to all and sundry. ie a lot is culture and later guidance rather than law.
Actually it was interesting, because the interviewer asked the woman committed to wearing the burka, that if she had to wear the covering because a man might be attracted to her, then why shouldn't men be covered so that women wouldn't be tempted to be attracted to them. She was actually speechless, and came back to the point that she wore it to be closer to the prophets wives and their tradition.
I just feel more and more, that it should be an obvious point that there is as much diversity, in Islam, in culture, belief and practice as there is in the Christian tradition. Many of the scholars who were on (one from Oxford as I remember) were very, very gentle and very liberal in their approach.
Just as a side point, nuns 'used' to pretty much, except for their face, (think Sister Act)go around covered from head to toe and nobody ever blinked an eye lid, but respected their garments (which I think were around 16th Century in origin) as a part of their commitment to their faith.
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Excellent points, Miss Taken.