Raising the Bar aftereffect

[_harmony]

My ward hasn't seen any changes in the number of missionaries going out since 2007. It's remained pretty steady. The drop we experienced was in 2003, when 2/3 of a class of boys didn't go (3 went, 6 didn't). The ward leadership went into panic mode, which, it turns out, was unnecessary. All of those boys who didn't go are still active, most are married, and probably half of them are sealed. The ones who went though... some of them are struggling. But since then, we're back on track, with 90% of our young men serving missions.

[_harmony]

Of course we have no way to know the past life issues of current GAs. It seems rather silly to bring it up. My guess though is there are certianly some leaders that had problems with this particular sin and have repented.

Do you think the focus on sexuality on the part of church leadership may be in part because of something that happened in their youth? Or maybe something that didn't happen?

[_John Larsen]

Because the church doesn't conduct exit interviews when people leave, there's no way of knowing anything about those who have left or simply drifted away (except those who were ex'ed have somewhat of an idea). Neglecting to ask those questions is both pigheaded and myopic, but not at all surprising. Asking them why they left would mean acknowledging they're gone.

Well, you don't have to ask a question you already "know" the answer to. They were either offended or they wanted to sin.

[_Mercury]

What difference does it make? The social pressure to serve a mission just means that alot more missionaries will have lied to get to go and avoid the stigma.

Consequences of the RTB include exclusion of mentally unstable individuals who the church feels are not able to fulfill the grueling 16 hour days, abject poverty and downright cruelty of the missionary program.

[_cinepro]

Times and Seasons posted this a while back:




Here's a graphic that purports to show the number of missionaries called. Not sure if it includes sister and senior missionaries. The site doesn't give a reference:



(These are "called" missionaries, so the number serving would be x2)

Here's a graph showing "Missionaries/Members":



And another one...

[_William Schryver]

Most GA's are "challenged" and that's why they were called so they could learn. One of the things they need to learn is a lot of those who did not pass the bar, passed it years before and served missions in their home....they had a "challenged" childhood and served missions there. For GA's not to know this or speak about it shows they still are in school and have a lot to learn.

karl, I didn't think it possible, but you have achieved a new high score of incoherence.

[_William Schryver]

Of course we have no way to know the past life issues of current GAs. It seems rather silly to bring it up. My guess though is there are certianly some leaders that had problems with this particular sin and have repented.

Do you think the focus on sexuality on the part of church leadership may be in part because of something that happened in their youth? Or maybe something that didn't happen?

Did I ever mention the fact that I consider you the single most repugnant female poster in the entire bloggernacle? Your faithful forbears must cringe with shame as they look down and observe what a repulsive figure you cut at this stage of your mortal sojourn. I hope your corrosive influence on your family, friends, and fellow ward members is mitigated by their recognition that you are not dealing from a full deck.

[_karl61]

Most GA's are "challenged" and that's why they were called so they could learn. One of the things they need to learn is a lot of those who did not pass the bar, passed it years before and served missions in their home....they had a "challenged" childhood and served missions there. For GA's not to know this or speak about it shows they still are in school and have a lot to learn.

karl, I didn't think it possible, but you have achieved a new high score of incoherence.

That's because you don't know how to really read or understand. It is over your head. You don't even know about balancing the scales and how that works

[_JohnStuartMill]

Do you think the focus on sexuality on the part of church leadership may be in part because of something that happened in their youth? Or maybe something that didn't happen?

Did I ever mention the fact that I consider you the single most repugnant female poster in the entire bloggernacle? Your faithful forbears must cringe with shame as they look down and observe what a repulsive figure you cut at this stage of your mortal sojourn. I hope your corrosive influence on your family, friends, and fellow ward members is mitigated by their recognition that you are not dealing from a full deck.

You need therapy.

[_harmony]

Did I ever mention the fact that I consider you the single most repugnant female poster in the entire bloggernacle? Your faithful forbears must cringe with shame as they look down and observe what a repulsive figure you cut at this stage of your mortal sojourn. I hope your corrosive influence on your family, friends, and fellow ward members is mitigated by their recognition that you are not dealing from a full deck.

I have achieved the ultimate pinnacle a woman could ever aspire to. Thanks!

Oh, and my faithful forebears were Baptists. I'm the first and so far only convert in my family. As far as my ward is concerned, I'm considered the one of the wisest women in Relief Society... probably because I don't suffer idiots like you gladly.