President Obama and President Monson to meet in DC.

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Re: President Obama and President Monson to meet in DC.

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JohnStuartMill wrote:Let's just hope that Monson doesn't go the Brigham Young route and try to kill Obama on the spot for being of mingled seed.


I think before that happens, Packer will jump in and tell him that, while it is a true principle that his throat should be slit, it might not be useful at this time. 'Bide your time, Tommy, bide your time.'
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aussieguy55 wrote:Nehor, read Lester Bush's paper in Dialogue on the history of the black issue. They were never consistant (e.g Elijah Abel). I knew a guy who served a mission in New York prior Old Testament 78. He said when they were door-knocking and encountered a black family, they taught them the first discussion. However the black family had to ask them to come back to present the other discussions whereas the situation was different for a white family where they were around the next week for the second discussion. Kind of like half-hearted missionary work when it came to blacks. Interesting poem by Harlem poet Langston Hughes

By what sends
the white kids
I ain't sent
I know I can't be President

What Don't big
them white kids
sure bugsme:
We knows everybody
ain't free

What's written down
for white folks
ain't for us all:
"Liberty And Justice---
Huh- For All"



Is there any shock in Aussie using a fellow traveling Stalinist stooge as a spokesman for the alleged plight of blacks in the post 1978 Church?

This individual meets and exceeds all expectations on a regular basis.
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Pres. Monson presents Obama with a autographed copy of the Book of Mormon and a genealogy binder.

Obama presents Monson with an autographed copy of Das Kapital, and a DVD of his inauguration.

Easy to envision this, really.
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Droopy, stop parroting your fellow community college dropout, Rush Limbaugh. Obama's not a Marxist. You've demonstrated several times that you don't actually understand the definition of the word.
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Droopy, stop parroting your fellow community college dropout, Rush Limbaugh. Obama's not a Marxist. You've demonstrated several times that you don't actually understand the definition of the word.



I don't eh?

OK John, whatever tickles your bippy.

Now, Obama is a Progressive, which, in his case, and given his present policies, means that he presents a kind of synthesis of Marxist and fascist (many aspects of the bailout, obviously) ideas and concepts in his approach to governance (the present condition of GM with respect to the government could only be termed neo-syndicalist)

Obama is what I would term a cultural Marxist, or transformational socialist. He seeks, and has been very clear since the beginning, a thorough remaking and restructuring of American society, especially economically.

He is also a black "cultural nationalist" steeped deeply in the ideology of the black power movement.

There is no evidence in his past, in his closest associations, stated beliefs, or professional work to imply otherwise.
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Droopy wrote:
Droopy, stop parroting your fellow community college dropout, Rush Limbaugh. Obama's not a Marxist. You've demonstrated several times that you don't actually understand the definition of the word.



I don't eh?

OK John, whatever tickles your bippy.

Now, Obama is a Progressive, which, in his case, and given his present policies, means that he presents a kind of synthesis of Marxist and fascist (many aspects of the bailout, obviously) ideas and concepts in his approach to governance (the present condition of GM with respect to the government could only be termed neo-syndicalist)

Obama is what I would term a cultural Marxist, or transformational socialist. He seeks, and has been very clear since the beginning, a thorough remaking and restructuring of American society, especially economically.

He is also a black "cultural nationalist" steeped deeply in the ideology of the black power movement.

There is no evidence in his past, in his closest associations, stated beliefs, or professional work to imply otherwise.

I have no problem in assigning "Marxist" to Obama, but then you have to also term GW and Reagan as Marxist.
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I have no problem in assigning "Marxist" to Obama, but then you have to also term GW and Reagan as Marxist.



Never ever underestimate the inanity one might encounter in this forum.

Never.
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Droopy wrote:
I have no problem in assigning "Marxist" to Obama, but then you have to also term GW and Reagan as Marxist.



Never ever underestimate the inanity one might encounter in this forum.

Never.

Well think about it. Obama is just continuing Bush's policies, Bush was continuing Reagan's. If Obama is a Marxist, then so are his predecessors. He is cut from the same cloth.
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Re: President Obama and President Monson to meet in DC.

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Droopy wrote:
I have no problem in assigning "Marxist" to Obama, but then you have to also term GW and Reagan as Marxist.



Never ever underestimate the inanity one might encounter in this forum.

Never.

rofl. Maybe Droopy can point out which of Obama's policies are "Marxist".

The bailout is Obama's Marxist plan? It must be, because only a dastardly Marxist would be able to effect the bailout before he was sworn into office, and while the administration of his predecessor, George W. Bush, was still handling economic affairs.

You. Are. Stupid.
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Re: President Obama and President Monson to meet in DC.

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aussieguy55 wrote:I think its Monson who should express repentence in behalf of the church. Years of teaching an inconsistant doctrine/practice based in part on a spurious Book of Abraham. You imagine prior to 1978 if you living in a area where one of your neighbours is white the other is black. You want to share the Gospel. You tell the white guy about all the blessings as a holder of the priesthood you are able to provide for your family. You tell the black guy his status is basically the same as a woman in the church. He cannot hold the priesthood. How humiliating would that be.

I agree. I think this would be a good opportunity for the church to apologize for the pain it caused the African-Americans for the last two centuries. I'm disappointed that Obama will even meet with Monson, as it is giving legitimacy to this cult as a religion. Next thing Obama will be meeting with David Miscavige. Obama should demand that the LDS church apologize for the hurtful things it has done in this country, not just the racism, and make it promise to turn "legit" from now on, including stopping all illegal and unethical acts.
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