Well, I'll Be Damned

[_Buffalo]

How come I seem to know it better than you?

You don't.

[_Nightlion]

How come I seem to know it better than you?

I suppose with that said you can explain then better than me how it is possible for Jesus Christ to be the Very Eternal Father.
Care to try?

Mosiah 16: 15
15 Teach them that redemption cometh through Christ the Lord, who is the very Eternal Father. Amen.


Please reach for some depth of understanding and not just some flippancy.

And while you're at it if you would like to hit a home run try explaining why the LDS Church ignores the Word of the Lord given to Alma. Are LDS redeemed, born of the Spirit, born of God. How so?

Mosiah 27:24-26
24 For, said he, I have repented of my sins, and have been redeemed of the Lord; behold I am born of the Spirit.
25 And the Lord said unto me: Marvel not that all mankind, yea, men and women, all nations, kindreds, tongues and people, must be born again; yea, born of God, changed from their carnal and fallen state, to a state of righteousness, being redeemed of God, becoming his sons and daughters;
26 And thus they become new creatures; and unless they do this, they can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God.

Is there a class at BYU on how one is 'changed from their carnal and fallen state to a state of righteousness?' Has there ever been a sermon that addresses competently how this is accomplished? How to prepare? Has one Mormon taught that you must single the mind and remove all obstacles such as TV, MOVIES, VIDEO GAMES, SPORTS, CELL PHONES, CAR DRIVING, JOB WORKING, SCHOOL, and every other pursuit that takes thought away from seeking the kingdom of God and his righteousness with one accord? Hmmm? What do you know better than me?

[_bluedream]

How come I seem to know it better than you?

You don't.

+1

I doubt anyone on this board knows the Book of Mormon so well as Nightlion, or regards it as earnestly.

[_Nightlion]

You don't.

+1

I doubt anyone on this board knows the Book of Mormon so well as Nightlion, or regards it as earnestly.

Thank You
And thanks to Buffalo too

[_bcspace]

I suppose with that said you can explain then better than me how it is possible for Jesus Christ to be the Very Eternal Father.
Care to try?

Mosiah 16: 15
15 Teach them that redemption cometh through Christ the Lord, who is the very Eternal Father. Amen.

Simple. Have you checked the footnotes? Therein lies your answer.

And while you're at it if you would like to hit a home run try explaining why the LDS Church ignores the Word of the Lord given to Alma. Are LDS redeemed, born of the Spirit, born of God. How so?

Mosiah 27:24-26
24 For, said he, I have repented of my sins, and have been redeemed of the Lord; behold I am born of the Spirit.
25 And the Lord said unto me: Marvel not that all mankind, yea, men and women, all nations, kindreds, tongues and people, must be born again; yea, born of God, changed from their carnal and fallen state, to a state of righteousness, being redeemed of God, becoming his sons and daughters;
26 And thus they become new creatures; and unless they do this, they can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God.

Last time I answered this question you ignored it. Like Buffalo below, your inability to deal with the evidence shows you don't have a command of the issues.

How come I seem to know it better than you?

You don't.

Says one who's failed on all Biblical topics. When one get's to the point of not being able to answer the question or continue the discussion as many times as you have, one's Bible might as well be marked with a big red "F".

[_The Nehor]

I have not been this impressed with anyone else for forty years.

But you are that impressed with yourself. And you attempt to condemn the LDS faith for pride. Someone needs to read Luke 18:10-15 again and see which of the two they are.

Just so you know there are many out there that think like you do. They're called narcissists.

[_Nightlion]

I suppose with that said you can explain then better than me how it is possible for Jesus Christ to be the Very Eternal Father.
Care to try?

Mosiah 16: 15
15 Teach them that redemption cometh through Christ the Lord, who is the very Eternal Father. Amen.

Simple. Have you checked the footnotes? Therein lies your answer.

Figures. I asked that you not be flippant and try to find some depth.

At least you could have quoted what you thought was relevant. I do not read the abomination of the topical guide's mingling of the precepts of the unwashed.

Care to try for real. Is there any spine to your faith?

And while you're at it if you would like to hit a home run try explaining why the LDS Church ignores the Word of the Lord given to Alma. Are LDS redeemed, born of the Spirit, born of God. How so?

Mosiah 27:24-26
24 For, said he, I have repented of my sins, and have been redeemed of the Lord; behold I am born of the Spirit.
25 And the Lord said unto me: Marvel not that all mankind, yea, men and women, all nations, kindreds, tongues and people, must be born again; yea, born of God, changed from their carnal and fallen state, to a state of righteousness, being redeemed of God, becoming his sons and daughters;
26 And thus they become new creatures; and unless they do this, they can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God.

Last time I answered this question you ignored it.

I highly doubt that I would ignore it. If I did I will not now.

[_MrStakhanovite]

I'm not sure there is another poster on this board who could go toe to toe with Nightlion when it comes to scipture.

[_Nightlion]

I have not been this impressed with anyone else for forty years.

But you are that impressed with yourself. And you attempt to condemn the LDS faith for pride. Someone needs to read Luke 18:10-15 again and see which of the two they are.

Just so you know there are many out there that think like you do. They're called narcissists.

Just because everyone thinks with their brains does not mean that they all are alike. Can you find one other person who ever had any answers for my 21 points of the New Mormon Theology? http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=457571#p457571

You think there are so many huh?

[_Nightlion]

I'm not sure there is another poster on this board who could go toe to toe with Nightlion when it comes to scipture.

Thanks although I must blush as I have not read completely through any book of scripture in over thirty years. I seriously did read them all for ten years to begin with. I kept them all in my heart.