**MEGATHREAD:** RECENT EVENTS & THE FUTURE OF THE BOARD

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_Infymus
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Re: **MEGATHREAD:** RECENT EVENTS & THE FUTURE OF THE BOARD

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Dr. Shades wrote:Moving on, although this particular bout wasn't Joseph's fault, he has nevertheless made it known that he'll continue to inform copyright holders of images used here that he deems to be infringements. However, our mutual understanding is that he'll first send me a PM if/when he sees something questionable, and if he ends up contacting a copyright holder, then he'll give them my e-mail address so that they'll come to me with their takedown request and not our hosting company.


I have banned Joseph from the Ex-Mormon Forums (EMF). I have also banned his ISP and his IP range for now. I have completely disabled the IMG tag permanently, which is very unfortunate. Myself and my Moderators are now in discussion about what constitutes "Fair Use" in quoting material from sources outside the EMF and it will require more work on their part to edit posts from users to cut down on any quoting that falls outside "Fair Use". We also discussing the possibility of disabling user avatars as well, as most all of those images are copyrighted.

Like I said, it is unfortunate, but due to people like Joseph, we are now in a new era of board warfare.

It really ticks me off what Joseph is doing. But he has set precedence. And while he may stop it, go away, whatnot - critics of the critics and the apologists have a new weapon in their arsenal.
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Re: **MEGATHREAD:** RECENT EVENTS & THE FUTURE OF THE BOARD

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This Joseph fella seems a little unhealthy. Would it not be best to remove him from the board for the safety of others?
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Re: **MEGATHREAD:** RECENT EVENTS & THE FUTURE OF THE BOARD

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Joseph wrote:Yes, if I see something that is 'too good', I check. Just as I would stop and/or report a shoplifter or thief in any other situation.

Whining that 'everyone does it' is a tired refrain of offenders and scrotes everywhere. Don't steal the work of others. Ask them and some will say 'go ahead and use it'. That is pretty easy to do.



Here's a thought, Joseph: Why don't you move to China and advocate against the theft of intellectual property there? They have a much bigger problem, and need your wisdom, experience, and passion much more, than we do.
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Simon Belmont wrote:Shades et al:

I seriously wonder what would happen if I made this deal:

If Shades agrees to ban Joseph, I will permanently leave the board.

I wonder what would happen...


I'm all for giving Joseph the boot for being a threat and a nuisance, but I don't think you should offer yourself up as a sacrificial lamb.
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I recommend more moderators if this is required for pictures. Unfair to expect Liz, harmony, and you Shades to do more moderation.

And ban Joseph. I hate to say it. But if he's not willing to see reason about the use of photos for no purpose except comedy/parody and is just going to a big gadouchefly then he needs to leave.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Hello,

I'm putting Mr. Joseph on Ignore because he's too unhinged.

Dr. Shades,

I'd recommend you ban Mr. Joseph from this forum. He's a direct threat to you, to this board, and to anyone who runs afoul of his particular set of "ethics".

V/R
Dr. Cameron

Dr. Shades,

I concur with Infymus and Dr. Cam's assessments.

Once again, thank you for your efforts. I don't understand your motive for permitting disruptors bandwidth. Seems they don't grasp the spirit, significance and purpose of the board. In the meantime I'll just put this Nazi on Ignore.

by the way, thankyou for the shitlist feature.
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"Why don't you move to China and advocate against the theft of intellectual property there? They have a much bigger problem, and need your wisdom, experience, and passion much more, than we do."
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Quite simply, it is not the Chinese who have the problem. It is the rest of the world who has a problem with the Chinese lack of respect for intellectual property. Kind of like many on these forums who are crying after getting caught.

And banning me from the Mormon discussion board? Nice going guy, now my brother can't even look at it. Do you feel a bit like Hitler, or is it Stalin now?
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Dr. Shades wrote:To that end, I temporarily disabled the image "hotlink" feature while deciding what to do.

That really kills the board for me, since I like to post things like this.
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Don't make Joseph a martyr by banning him. Shunning is the way to go on this. We can easily just ignore him. Most of us ignored him just fine before all of this happened. Let's not sink ourselves to the level of the aptly named MAD board in this time of crisis.


Look, there is a post above me from him, I'm not going to respond to it. All, please resist the temptation, or let's at least talk about him and not directly to him.
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Joseph wrote:Yes, if I see something that is 'too good', I check. Just as I would stop and/or report a shoplifter or thief in any other situation.


?? Was there financial gain made by any poster here who linked to a digitially protected image like there would be financial gain for a shoplifter or thief in some other situation as your analogy suggests.

Your example doesn't fit.
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