gramps wrote:Hold on! I sense this is soon going to have to be moved in to the masturbation thread in telestial.
What were you saying Stem?
All I can say is there was no masturbation involved on my end. As a teenage boy, now I'm giving away my secret, I told myself I have no idea how to do that, so I never even tried. It worked perfectly. I don't think that's for everyone, though.
Love ya tons, Stem
I ain't nuttin'. don't get all worked up on account of me.
Oh for shame, how the mortals put the blame on us gods, for they say evils come from us, but it is they, rather, who by their own recklessness win sorrow beyond what is given... Zeus (1178 BC)
Thanks for not being "anti" with the missionaries! I never am. If they ask I tell them I resigned from the Church. When they ask "Why?" I tell them "Because I believe that Doctor Dahesh was a true Prophet because of all his miracles". They say, "Well, Satan can do miracles too!" or "You know, it's not too late to repent and come back to the church". I never tell them about Joseph Smith screwing his foster daughters, or any of the 10,000 other 'problems' with Mormon doctrine and history. I encourage them to serve good missions, and to get a good education and to marry a good woman, in that order. I emphasize "good education" because "Mormon women are like all females...like female birds..they will marry the male who can build for them the best nest...whether he is Mormon or not". They laugh and shake their heads in agreement. Sometimes a missionary will accuse me of being an adulterer and "that's why" I left. Instead of getting angry at his ignorance I just say, "No, I've never committed adultery and was never exed".
In my view, it is better for a Good Mormon to remain a Good Mormon, rather than for him/her to be lost in doubt and confusion. Most good Mormons become agnostics or atheists, because they think that if God fooled them, so there is no God. Better for them to remain a Good Mormon and do good. But Bad Mormons should leave the Church. They made it INtolerable for people like me. If all the Bad Mormons left, I'd go back. No....not as a TBM, but simply as a place to worship God and raise a family and have good people as friends. But, the Bad Mormons ruin it. They really do. Mockers. False accusers. Haughty. Prideful. Liars. Hypocrites. Too many of them in the Church. They are too institutionalized in the Church. They're not leaving. Many good people are leaving. I wish there was a way to get all the Bad Mormons to leave, and leave only the Good Mormons. Then, I'd go back. Really, I would. It's a wonderful LIE!!! Really, it is. A wonderful BIG LIE. I'd go back, but the Church has too many assholes. Too many self-righteous smooth-faced hypocrites. So, I don't go back.