Nauvoo doesn't feel like our heritage

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Re: Nauvoo doesn't feel like our heritage

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Hello,

I never felt like Illinois was really that "Mormon". New York? Meh. Utah? Absolutely. I guess I was a Brighamite through and through.

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why me wrote:Since Nauvoo is an intergral part of Mormon culture and history, it is by proxy apart of a Mormon's heritage. For any Mormon to claim that Nauvoo is not apart of their heritage, they would be basically lying to themselves.

However, when a person may leave the faith or is considering leaving the faith, they may begin to look into their Mormon heritage and attempt to find something that they may dislke to justify their backsliding.



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why me wrote:Since Nauvoo is an intergral part of Mormon culture and history, it is by proxy apart of a Mormon's heritage. For any Mormon to claim that Nauvoo is not apart of their heritage, they would be basically lying to themselves.

However, when a person may leave the faith or is considering leaving the faith, they may begin to look into their Mormon heritage and attempt to find something that they may dislke to justify their backsliding.


The free cookies, the free brick, and the free carriage rides are nice and all, but Nauvoo isn't part of my heritage because I am from Canada. My brothers-from-other-mothers in the Congo feel the same way.

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LDSToronto wrote:
why me wrote:Since Nauvoo is an intergral part of Mormon culture and history, it is by proxy apart of a Mormon's heritage. For any Mormon to claim that Nauvoo is not apart of their heritage, they would be basically lying to themselves.

However, when a person may leave the faith or is considering leaving the faith, they may begin to look into their Mormon heritage and attempt to find something that they may dislke to justify their backsliding.


The free cookies, the free brick, and the free carriage rides are nice and all, but Nauvoo isn't part of my heritage because I am from Canada. My brothers-from-other-mothers in the Congo feel the same way.

H.

Don't feel too left out. Some of the Mormon settlers of Nauvoo were Canadian.
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why me wrote:Since Nauvoo is an intergral part of Mormon culture and history...

I don't want to ask for trouble
I don't want to pick a quarrel
(take Your pick...)

What about more than half of the official membership outside of english speaking world - as You see, I don't care the activition rate... - who don't know anything about Nauvoo, who can't pronounce that word at all.

In hungarian, it is (IS) pronounced as nʌʊvɔː.
Please use International Phonetic Alphabet chart for English dialects
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zeezrom wrote:My mom wrote the family an email telling everyone they are headed to Nauvoo for a week to "capture the essence of our heritage".


This is quite a recent historical development. When I was young the essence of Mormon heritage was pioneer Utah, full stop. Nauvoo didn't enter into the equation because there was no Nauvoo. The heritage tourism your mother speaks of had to wait until the church rebuilt the Nauvoo temple and built "Historic Nauvoo" as a destination for such "legislated nostalgia." In other words, this "essence" is little more than a decade old.
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Blixa wrote:
zeezrom wrote:My mom wrote the family an email telling everyone they are headed to Nauvoo for a week to "capture the essence of our heritage".


This is quite a recent historical development. When I was young the essence of Mormon heritage was pioneer Utah, full stop. Nauvoo didn't enter into the equation because there was no Nauvoo. The heritage tourism your mother speaks of had to wait until the church rebuilt the Nauvoo temple and built "Historic Nauvoo" as a destination for such "legislated nostalgia." In other words, this "essence" is little more than a decade old.

And, ironically, a portion of it is funded by the RLDS a.k.a. Community of Christ Church.
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Re: Nauvoo doesn't feel like our heritage

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We had a family reunion in Nauvoo about a month ago. It was a very nice event. The Nauvoo temple is beautiful.

I will say that, as a member, I felt more "at home" in the Nauvoo setting than I did in Utah.
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liz3564 wrote:
Blixa wrote:This is quite a recent historical development. When I was young the essence of Mormon heritage was pioneer Utah, full stop. Nauvoo didn't enter into the equation because there was no Nauvoo. The heritage tourism your mother speaks of had to wait until the church rebuilt the Nauvoo temple and built "Historic Nauvoo" as a destination for such "legislated nostalgia." In other words, this "essence" is little more than a decade old.

And, ironically, a portion of it is funded by the RLDS a.k.a. Community of Christ Church.


This is a bit off topic, but did you ever listen to the Mormon Expression podcast on the Kirtland Temple, liz (and other reading this)? It was quite fascinating and really enlarged my understanding of the CoC.

I think the Nauvoo cultural memory experience is rather analogous to other developments in the contemporary "Mormon nostalgia industry" like the shift from covered wagon to handcart as western trek signifier. The themeparkization of Nauvoo is fairly benign, the valorization of the handcart trek is more disturbing in my opinion.
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Re: Nauvoo doesn't feel like our heritage

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LDSToronto wrote:The free cookies, the free brick, and the free carriage rides are nice and all, but Nauvoo isn't part of my heritage because I am from Canada. My brothers-from-other-mothers in the Congo feel the same way.

What has being from Canada got to do with anything?

Nauvoo is part of the heritage of any believing Latter-day Saint -- and, in a very real sense, of cultural Mormons, too.
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