Only In Provo - any better example?

[_badseed]

Instead of trying to prove that Mormon scriptures are "true" maybe it would be best to look at what Mormon scriptures can teach us that would be universally true.

I think this approach is becoming more common among individual members— and perhaps some scholars. I don't see the Church going that route anytime soon though. Universal truths are good for building common ground/trust but do little to convert. The Church will always a vested interest in using LDS scripture as proof that Mormonism is the "the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth."

[_BartBurk]

Instead of trying to prove that Mormon scriptures are "true" maybe it would be best to look at what Mormon scriptures can teach us that would be universally true.

I think this approach is becoming more common among individual members— and perhaps some scholars. I don't see the Church going that route anytime soon though. Universal truths are good for building common ground/trust but do little to convert. The Church will always a vested interest in using LDS scripture as proof that Mormonism is the "the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth."

I think "always" might be a bit too strong. I'm not sure the Book of Abraham or the Book of Moses do anything to prove the LDS Church is true. To the extent that D&C 132 is used to show that our family relationships are eternal it might be "true" even if we reject the concept of plural marriage in the here and now. If the Book of Mormon is not really ancient history there are still true principles that might be found within it that could have conversion power for some people.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Have you landed yet, Joey???!!!!?????!!!!!!???????????

[_Joey]

Have you landed yet, Joey???!!!!?????!!!!!!???????????

Why yes I have. And in Vegas as well, at the Wynn. Actually playing golf there on Saturday w one of the FF speakers and some others. And doing a bit of century training up the Red Rock canyon and loop early Friday morn. I hear the group has an extra Cervelo (Durace) that I can send over if your interested in joining us! Don't worry, most of us are in our 50's. It'd be fun, you know - "sound body, sound mind"!

And FYI, we'll be at Piero's tonight around 9. Swing by! We can talk history - gold plates or Zarahemla, your choice.

[_Daniel Peterson]

Wow. I can only envy your lifestyle as an international captain of industry, financial titan, legendary man of achievement, and bon vivant from afar off, in the cheap seats.

My wife and I took in a show tonight, though. It was Peasant Night, so we were allowed in.

[_Droopy]

if an story or event does not fit the Mormon conservative psychopath stereotype it is laughed at.

Conservative psychopaths like to laugh a lot, don't they? Tittering hysterically is a sign of a psychopathic state of mind, isn't it?

Or do they more of less chortle, when dealing with non-conservative psychopathic subjects?

[_zeezrom]

Springville is next to Provo and could be considered a suburb of Provo. Some people I went to school with at BYU lived in Springville. One of my professors lived there too.

Just a clarification in case anyone was wondering about the before mentioned city.

[_Joey]

Hey Peterson, missed out on a great ride this morning.  I was told, and have  to admit, this Red Rock Canyon Loop ride is very special.  The red rock cliffs explode w the dawn breaking sunrise!  If you'd have been there - no doubt you'd be commissioning Clark, Sorenson, Gardner and the boys (Hamlin &Watson too!) for excavating that locale for the Book of Mormon!  It was "inspiring"! 

For those of you who live in Vegas, my compliments and THANKS.  An incredible ride up that canyon and then that "loop"!  WOW!  

My wife and I took in a show tonight, though. It was Peasant Night, so we were allowed in.

Well that is fantastic.  And think how it could impact your experience in writing all those globally read articles you provide Mormon Times!!  Perhaps you now have the experience from your "peasant treatment" to reflect and share the thoughts of the African Americans as peasants in the eyes of your prophet of god until just recently.  Don't blow it, go with the experience - let's see your compassion for religious equality under your doctrines finally come to print!  You da man!  You da pen!!

[_Simon Belmont]

Hey Peterson, missed out on a great ride this morning.  I was told, and have  to admit, this Red Rock Canyon Loop ride is very special.  The red rock cliffs explode w the dawn breaking sunrise!  If you'd have been there - no doubt you'd be commissioning Clark, Sorenson, Gardner and the boys (Hamlin &Watson too!) for excavating that locale for the Book of Mormon!  It was "inspiring"! 

For those of you who live in Vegas, my compliments and THANKS.  An incredible ride up that canyon and then that "loop"!  WOW!  

So Joey, do your friends, who are "in their 50's [sic]" also type with excessive amounts of exclamation points? Perhaps they all talk in such an excited way all the time that their natural voices just scream "!!!!!!!!!!!" after each sentence?


Signed,
Curious in Connecticut

[_Joey]

Belmont

You got a job yet? Or do you also live life off of some tenured position w the Mormon church? Perhaps these message boards are your life?