Fox Advocacy Group Declares Romney Non-Christian

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Chap wrote:Once small problem: all the arguments that

1. Make Mormons Christians (and I have no objection to their claiming that descriptor)

also work:

2. To make FLDS Christians.

3. To make FLDS Mormons.

I'd like to see someone find a way to get the first one without having to let the next two in as well.


I agree. Mormons are Christians. FLDS are Mormons. However, neither could be defined as orthodox.
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Some Schmo wrote:Religious people... pfffft! So silly for so many reasons.


That is funny and sadly true.
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Chap wrote:Once small problem: all the arguments that

1. Make Mormons Christians (and I have no objection to their claiming that descriptor)

also work:

2. To make FLDS Christians.

3. To make FLDS Mormons.

I'd like to see someone find a way to get the first one without having to let the next two in as well.


What's the problem? Who cares if FLDS are Christian, or self-identify as such, or as Mormon? I know I don't.
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Morley wrote:I think it's an issue because Romney will never be elected if he's perceived as a non-Christian.


I know, but we're going to have to face the decision to elect a non-Christian at some point. Who cares if people want to paint him as non-Christian? Someone's going to have to take up that mantle.
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Chap wrote:Once small problem: all the arguments that

1. Make Mormons Christians (and I have no objection to their claiming that descriptor)

also work:

2. To make FLDS Christians.

3. To make FLDS Mormons.

I'd like to see someone find a way to get the first one without having to let the next two in as well.


Ok so what? I don;t have an issue with that.


You Christians who hate to call LDS Christians do so primarily because they think Mormons have a different Jesus. But the Jesus they worship is no more or less biblical than they think the LDS Jesus is. Both rely on extra biblical creeds or revelations or whatever. THe Bible is really not clear on the nature of the God head the results from three persons on the New Testament all that can be referred to as God.

Mormons are not historical or orthodox Christians. But they are part of the Christian umbrella.
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I would include Mormonism as a basically Christian religion. I'm not sure the Mormonism of 1860 would count, though. Or even 1960.
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I'm sure I would be one of those "Bible thumping", blah, blah, blah...

Nonetheless, I have no idea if Romney is a Christian. Nor Huckabee, for that matter. A Christian is one whose sins are forgiven so how would I know this about another person.

I'm not sure why we are asked to defend what someone on FNC says. Perhaps it's your bigotry in play here?

However, Mormonism is not Christian. There's no denying that, no matter the amount of bluster you can muster.
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Hoops wrote: However, Mormonism is not Christian. There's no denying that, no matter the amount of bluster you can muster.

You're not a christian no matter the amount of bluster you can muster. Go ahead and call yourself one, but it's not true.

Wow, that was easy. I guess I just figured out why being a christian is so attractive. I can judge others and say whatever I want, whether it's true or not. That's being a normal christian (according to the examples we have on this board, anyway). This is awesome!
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Hoops wrote:I'm sure I would be one of those "Bible thumping", blah, blah, blah...

Nonetheless, I have no idea if Romney is a Christian. Nor Huckabee, for that matter. A Christian is one whose sins are forgiven so how would I know this about another person.

I'm not sure why we are asked to defend what someone on FNC says. Perhaps it's your bigotry in play here?

However, Mormonism is not Christian. There's no denying that, no matter the amount of bluster you can muster.


So Mormonism's sins aren't forgiven? What does that even mean?

you define Christian as those whose sins are forgiven. Its seems like you've emloyed nothing more than conflating in some hope to exclude people from the term you wish to define specially for you, or something.
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So Mormonism's sins aren't forgiven? What does that even mean?


I have no idea. It's your sentence, you figure it out.
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