The way sins are rated

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P.S. Don't expect Polygamy Porter to weigh in on what perversions are "bad" and which ones are "fun." He's way too vanilla.
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Darth J wrote:Burning candles because you are having a seance = Bad

Burning candles because you are going to need some hot wax = Fun

I plead the 5th. :-)
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just me wrote:Nice list. I don't agree. This is my interpretation of the sin rank system, one being the worst.

1. Stop believing in the LDS church
2. Porn
3. Gay Sex
4. Same Sex Marriage
5. Alcohol
6. Coffee
7. Masturbating
8. Tattoos and piercings
9. Pre Marital Sex (hetero)
10. Reading "anti-Mormon" literature



those are all contained in my list:

You have to stop believing in the church and read anti Mormon lit to drink coffee, wear sleeveless dresses, and listen to Lady Gaga. That's a given.

1. Porn
2. Beer (your #5)
3. Coffee
4. Fuzzy handcuffs and such (this includes your #7)
5. Tattoos (if you did this before marriage, most likely you did your #9)
6. Wearing a sleeveless dress
7. Lady Gaga (includes your #3 and 4 - it's a given)
8. Wine (your #5)
9. Gambling
10. Laughing at the mic behind the sacrament table
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LOOOOOOOOL!

Where does "light-mindedness" go? #10? What about speaking evil of LDS leaders?
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1. Being a Democrat (or a liberal or a socialist etc. They commit or aid in most of the sins below by definition)
2. Murder
3. Won't forgive.
4. Abortion
5. Pedophelia
6. Adultery
7. Fornication
8. Homosexual Self Identification (Acts are listed above in 5-7)
9. Feminism
10. Apostasy/Inactivity
12. Narcotics
13. Alcohol/Smoking
14. Environmentalism (including vegetarianism)
15. Stealing
16. Gambling
17. Coveting/Lust
18. Overeating/Coffee Tea
19. Language/Lord's name in vain
20. Tattoos and piercings

Just some initial thoughts. I'm sure I could change or be persuded differently if I think about it longer or presented with a good case. Putting Sprite in the sacrament cups could be an automatic ticket to the CK so God can keep a close eye on you.
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Trying to determine if BC's list shows he has a sense of humor or is for real. Either way, I LOL'd.
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bcspace wrote:1. Being a Democrat (or a liberal or a socialist etc. They commit or aid in most of the sins below by definition)
2. Murder
3. Won't forgive.
4. Abortion
5. Pedophelia
6. Adultery
7. Fornication
8. Homosexual Self Identification (Acts are listed above in 5-7)
9. Feminism
10. Apostasy/Inactivity
12. Narcotics
13. Alcohol/Smoking
14. Environmentalism (including vegetarianism)
15. Stealing
16. Gambling
17. Coveting/Lust
18. Overeating/Coffee Tea
19. Language/Lord's name in vain
20. Tattoos and piercings


So if we assume that the worst not forgiving would be not forgiving the worst sin then one of the top sins is:

Not forgiving Democrats.

Oh, and everyone else's lists are equally inane.
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It does seem like the church used to be more outspoken about it. There was always the rumor that they wouldn't accept tithing from gambling winnings, though of course there is no way to enforce that if someone really wanted to pay it.

I notice that the For The Strength Of Youth pamphlet doesn't mention gambling at all.

You can find pretty recent conference talks condemning it, but day to day it doesn't seem like that high a priority.

I wonder if it's because these days there is little to distinguish gambling from many kinds of investing seen as legitimate. A lot of trading in options, foreign currencies, and commodities is straight up gambling. Maybe they would rather avoid the subject entirely than take a position on all that.
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Sophocles wrote:It does seem like the church used to be more outspoken about it. There was always the rumor that they wouldn't accept tithing from gambling winnings, though of course there is no way to enforce that if someone really wanted to pay it.

I notice that the For The Strength Of Youth pamphlet doesn't mention gambling at all.

You can find pretty recent conference talks condemning it, but day to day it doesn't seem like that high a priority.

I wonder if it's because these days there is little to distinguish gambling from many kinds of investing seen as legitimate. A lot of trading in options, foreign currencies, and commodities is straight up gambling. Maybe they would rather avoid the subject entirely than take a position on all that.


One reason, I'm sure, is that the Church has historically had pretty important connections with the gaming industry in Nevada. At one point, there were 2 or 3 Mormons on NV's 5-person gaming commission, plus there are (If I recall correctly) a number of banking interests and whatnot in Las Vegas that profit from the industry. If you've ever seen the movie Casino, there's a little bit of a nudge to this.
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Doctor Scratch wrote:One reason, I'm sure, is that the Church has historically had pretty important connections with the gaming industry in Nevada. At one point, there were 2 or 3 Mormons on NV's 5-person gaming commission, plus there are (If I recall correctly) a number of banking interests and whatnot in Las Vegas that profit from the industry. If you've ever seen the movie Casino, there's a little bit of a nudge to this.


Yeah, that does sound more likely.
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