Question for the Atheists.

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_mentalgymnast

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Mad Viking wrote:
mentalgymnast wrote:Knowing that we are limited to our five senses in determining what is real and what is not, what is true and what is not, what we can know and what we cannot, and so forth, how can you know for a fact that a God doesn't exist? The evidence that you rely on is restricted/limited by the filtering system of your five senses.

How can you be so sure?

Regards,
MG
Which god are we talking about?

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=15950&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=how+atheism+works


A creator responsible for human life on earth.

Regards,
MG
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Ren wrote:
mentalgymnast wrote:Knowing that we are limited to our five senses in determining what is real and what is not, what is true and what is not, what we can know and what we cannot, and so forth, how can you know for a fact that a God doesn't exist?

I don't.
That's not what 'atheism' means...


Let's go with this definition:

http://www.answers.com/topic/atheism

Regards,
MG
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Mad Viking wrote:
mentalgymnast wrote:Knowing that we are limited to our five senses in determining what is real and what is not, what is true and what is not, what we can know and what we cannot, and so forth, how can you know for a fact that a God doesn't exist? The evidence that you rely on is restricted/limited by the filtering system of your five senses.

How can you be so sure?

Regards,
MG
I apologize for responding again before you got a chance to respond to my first post. However, I am struck by the irony of your question. You say that the only tools we have for determining truth are our five senses. Can ANY god be detected with any of these?


It doesn't appear as we look at the general course of things that this is the case. Or at least not reliable. So back to my original question...

Regards,
MG
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Themis wrote:
mentalgymnast wrote:Knowing that we are limited to our five senses in determining what is real and what is not, what is true and what is not, what we can know and what we cannot, and so forth, how can you know for a fact that a God doesn't exist? The evidence that you rely on is restricted/limited by the filtering system of your five senses.

How can you be so sure?

Regards,
MG


Do most say they are sure, or do they just say a lack of evidence makes it unreasonable for them to believe in a particular God/s/Gia/etc?


Lack of evidence received through the five senses.

Regards,
MG
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Buffalo wrote:I do know for a fact that the messy Yahweh/El/Jeshua/Father/Son/HG/God syndicate doesn't exist, though.


But you are willing to accept that there may be a creator responsible for human beings here on earth?

Regards,
MG
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Scottie wrote:I do believe in a God.

Zeus is alive and well!

Don't believe me? Then how do you explain all those lightning bolts??

And don't give me some crappy scientific explanation about ions and positive/negative particles. Science will just change their mind next week while Zeus's bolts continues to defy scientific logic!! Someday science will admit that they can't explain them and that the only logical explanation is Zeus.

Also, how do you think day turns to night?? Uh, every heard of a little guy named Apollo? He rides his chariot across the sky, pulling the sun with it. Now I'm guessing you'll try and tell me the Earth turns on it's axis and this causes the day/night cycle, right?? Again with the unreliable science.

Now prove to me they don't exist!! I dare you!


Do you believe it is reasonable to think that there is a creator responsible for humans existing on earth?

Regards,
MG
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Dr. Shades wrote:Dear mentalgymnast:

Knowing that we are limited to our five senses in determining what is real and what is not, what is true and what is not, what we can know and what we cannot, and so forth, how can you know for a fact that leprechauns don't exist? The evidence that you rely on is restricted/limited by the filtering system of your five senses.

How can you be so sure?

Regards,
Dr. Shades


That's where I'm going with this question. Knowing that we are limited to our five senses can we know for a fact that there is little reason to believe that God doesn't exist?

Regards,
MG
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mentalgymnast wrote:Knowing that we are limited to our five senses in determining what is real and what is not, what is true and what is not, what we can know and what we cannot, and so forth, how can you know for a fact that a God doesn't exist? The evidence that you rely on is restricted/limited by the filtering system of your five senses.

How can you be so sure?

Regards,
MG


I'd really be interested in a thoughtful answer or two. So far, I'm seeing some evasiveness. C'mon, there's got to be some simple, straightforward reasons for lack of belief in a creator/God responsible for human beings on earth.

Regards,
MG
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mentalgymnast wrote:Knowing that we are limited to our five senses in determining what is real and what is not, what is true and what is not, what we can know and what we cannot, and so forth


I reject this, I am not an strict empiricist when it comes to Epistemology or Theories of Truth.


mentalgymnast wrote:how can you know for a fact that a God doesn't exist?


I have a belief that God doesn’t exist, and I feel it’s justified. If it is true or not, I don’t really know.
_mentalgymnast

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MrStakhanovite wrote:
mentalgymnast wrote:Knowing that we are limited to our five senses in determining what is real and what is not, what is true and what is not, what we can know and what we cannot, and so forth


I reject this, I am not an strict empiricist when it comes to Epistemology or Theories of Truth.


Where do you allow for some wiggle room?

Regards,
MG
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