Darwin Was A Panic Ridden Genius Who Lied

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Quasimodo wrote:
Nightlion wrote:Australia could not have independently evolved. The odds of evolution happening once is impossible. Twice on the same planet?


The evidence for evolution is overwhelming. It's not a rare or impossible occurrence. It's happening right now in every species in the world.

A simple example... dogs. All dogs are, in fact, still wolves to some degree. Any dog can mate with a wolf and produce fertile offspring (the definition of a species).

Dogs have been selectively bred to produce an amazing variety. Big, little, black, white, spotted. All are still wolves (I know it's hard to think of a miniature poodle as a wolf).

The genetic process that allows this selective breeding is the same one that powers evolution. It's the same for horses and cattle.

It's the same for the development of food grains such as corn. An ear of corn you buy from the store looks radically different from the natural corn it was developed from.

Human genetic manipulation (selective breeding) is only a speeding up of the evolutionary process.

If you want to be truly honest, Night, you will have to fit evolution into your philosophy somewhere.


No I wont. Dog variety is of God. It is just dumb to line up all dog variety as if they all came from wolves. DUMB DUMB DUMB

Same with avian variety. Fish variety. HOW COME MANKIND DOES NOT HAVE AS MUCH VARIETY AS DOGS. Talk about selective breeding. Humans have been selecting all the while. So what happened. Where are the teany tiny furry humans and the Great Big hairless humans and the poofy humans. Come on. Were are my little pookins humans.
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Runtu wrote:
Nightlion wrote:Life on earth, in all its variety and abundance, and more especially in its locale proves animals must have been seeded upon the planet.

Australia could not have independently evolved. The odds of evolution happening once is impossible. Twice on the same planet?

The Amazon could not have independently evolved. The specialization of this region is so rich and diverse from all other locales on the planet that a rational mind could not conclude this is random selection compared with the scarceness of species everywhere else.

The Galapagos Islands' oddity proves that it was seeded and could never have evolved independent from the rest of the world.

I submit that all the variety on the planet proves it was seeded with life and that animals were placed upon the earth by a deliberate act of seeding by its creator.

It would further be obvious that the Amazon is a horticulture of God. Possibly an ongoing creation event right under our noses. Those who wanted God out of academia must have panicked when they began to realize the obviousness of the truth from all that exists upon the planet and freaked out in desperation to force a conclusion upon everyone at pain of exclusion.


Much as I like you, James, you do not know what you are talking about. The Galapagos are very strong evidence of evolution, as the species there evolved from mainland South American species and then further evolved on separate islands.


I know what I am talking about. I do not know what YOU are talking about. What Darwin forced to conclude was stupid. Brilliantly stupid.
Why can't the Lord sequester a species here and there for his own name's glory? He is all about breeding and selection to engineer genes. That is his business. It is not owned by Natural Selection. Everything Science finds in the fossil record does not have to prove evolution. It proves that God is busy doing his own work and uses this and that and reuses the matter of this earth and that earth and can combine them and do his pleasure at will.

Science can just kiss off.
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moksha wrote:How many varieties of finches live on Apocalrock and how did they become differentiated for their various niches?


I have only observed doves on The Apocalrock
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Dr. Shades wrote:What does this "pain of exclusion" look and feel like?


Loss of tenure

Sorry to be all day getting back
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Nightlion wrote:Why can't the Lord sequester a species here and there for his own name's glory?

Because A) Evolution doesn't require Him to, and B) there's no evidence whatsoever that He did so.

He is all about breeding and selection to engineer genes. That is his business. It is not owned by Natural Selection. Everything Science finds in the fossil record does not have to prove evolution.

Unfortunately, however, it does.

It proves that God is busy doing his own work and uses this and that and reuses the matter of this earth and that earth and can combine them and do his pleasure at will.

There's no evidence whatsoever that anything on this earth came from other "earths."

Science can just kiss off.

Is your house wired for electricity? If so, why?
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Never was the following dismissive rejoinder more warranted:

Go read a book or two.
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The timeline of continental drift, likely migratory patterns, and evolution actually line up extremely well. Tarski alluded to it, but the reason Australia is the land of marsupials while they are rare elsewhere is that marsupial mammals evolved when Australia could be reached, but placental mammals evolved after Australia became geographically isolated. Placentals went on to out-compete the bejesus of marsupials everywhere else. But on Australia, the free-from competition marsupials diversified into all the niches that are occupied by placentals elsewhere. Kangaroos are basically the bison of the outback. It's one of those things easily explained by evolutionary theory that creationists counter with, "Oh yeah? Well God did it," as their counter theory.
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Nightlion wrote:
Dr. Shades wrote:What does this "pain of exclusion" look and feel like?


Loss of tenure



Even when I don't agree with you Nightlion, you manage to impress me with a pithy expression.
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Nightlion wrote:I know what I am talking about. I do not know what YOU are talking about. What Darwin forced to conclude was stupid. Brilliantly stupid.
Why can't the Lord sequester a species here and there for his own name's glory? He is all about breeding and selection to engineer genes. That is his business. It is not owned by Natural Selection. Everything Science finds in the fossil record does not have to prove evolution. It proves that God is busy doing his own work and uses this and that and reuses the matter of this earth and that earth and can combine them and do his pleasure at will.

Science can just kiss off.


Even when it makes sense and your explanation doesn't? OK, then, at least I know where you're coming from.

The thing about Darwin is that he came up with his theory based on common sense, without all the current molecular science, geology, dating processes, or anything like that. That subsequent science has consistently confirmed his theory says a lot about the man's genius. He wasn't forced to conclude anything, but those who out of hand reject good, solid science can say nothing to me about stupidity.

It's fine to have a theologically based belief in how things work, but we shouldn't bad-mouth science until we understand it.
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EAllusion wrote:The timeline of continental drift, likely migratory patterns, and evolution actually line up extremely well. Tarski alluded to it, but the reason Australia is the land of marsupials while they are rare elsewhere is that marsupial mammals evolved when Australia could be reached, but placental mammals evolved after Australia became geographically isolated. Placentals went on to out-compete the bejesus of marsupials everywhere else. But on Australia, the free-from competition marsupials diversified into all the niches that are occupied by placentals elsewhere. Kangaroos are basically the bison of the outback. It's one of those things easily explained by evolutionary theory that creationists counter with, "Oh yeah? Well God did it," as their counter theory.


Oh yeah? Well, if its normal for placentals to out compete marsupials then it figures that God would isolate them, knowing that.

Bottom line about evolution is this: "hmmm, without God how do we account for everything? It must of just sort of happened." Great science. Then they organize everything around that premise. That does not displace God. It denies him. It does not prove he was not the creator and all things upon this world are his handiwork. It just denies it. Denies it. Denies it. Denies it.

Like science knew it was about to invent the modern age. They did not want to share attributions with God. Like thank you God for preparing the fossil fuel so we could live so comfy and drive car, trucks trains, big boats and airplanes. Thank you God for the minerals from which we fashion so many handy gadgets. Thank you God for everything. AMEN.

I am sorry for not boning up on reading crap like Origin of the Species or similar tracts of God hate. I can't stand those stupid cartoon pamphlets that the JWs and Evangelical hand out either.

The interest I have in evolution is about 80 degrees below zero.
You guys have got to cut me some slack. I KNOW GOD. So its an absolute moot point. GEEZ!
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