the sin of alcohol. Where did it come from.

[_The Nehor]

Thanks. A man made law.

Your deliberate misunderstanding is idiotic.

that's what I figured it might be.

You figured wrong. Nice try though.

So I guess from that statement everything espoused as a eternal truth or ordinance or prohibition in the d&c is from Jesus?

Read Section 1 of the D&C if you wish to know the thoughts of God himself on the matter.

Of course if you are looking for an independent source backing that you will need the Holy Ghost. He will be glad to confirm.

If you are looking to score rhetorical points and think this jackassery is accomplishing this then please continue to humiliate yourself by pretending to be stupid. One day it will stop being an act.

Have a nice day.

[_jon]

If alcohol was a sin why did Joseph the Prophet drink wine in jail and why did Brigham the Prophet own a brewery?

[_The Nehor]

If alcohol was a sin why did Joseph the Prophet drink wine in jail and why did Brigham the Prophet own a brewery?

I think you missed the whole "not being a sin" thing. It was made one later. It specifically applies only to the Saints.

There are some things that are wrong (though even here God can make exceptions). Murder, theft, assault, adultery. They are wrong generally.

Some things are specifically prohibited not because they are wrong but because they have been said to be wrong. There is nothing inherently wrong about me driving 90 on the freeway but I can get a citation for it. There is nothing inherently wrong with alcohol consumption but God has decreed that his saints are not to partake of these things for the time being.

It became law for the saints after Joseph and Brigham were long dead. It may be rescinded one day. Until then the saints are commanded to obey. In the meantime they should definitely not pass judgment on those who do consume alcohol because this law is solely for the saints.

[_jon]

Thanks Nehor, what date did Joseph Smith receive the revelation known as the Word of Wisdom? Was that before or after he and Brigham died?

[_dogmatic]

Thanks. A man made law.

Your deliberate misunderstanding is idiotic.

that's what I figured it might be.

You figured wrong. Nice try though.

So I guess from that statement everything espoused as a eternal truth or ordinance or prohibition in the d&c is from Jesus?

Read Section 1 of the D&C if you wish to know the thoughts of God himself on the matter.

Of course if you are looking for an independent source backing that you will need the Holy Ghost. He will be glad to confirm.

If you are looking to score rhetorical points and think this jackassery is accomplishing this then please continue to humiliate yourself by pretending to be stupid. One day it will stop being an act.

Have a nice day.

woe.. caught you on a bad day. no need to be hate'n. have a good Sabbath.

[_The Nehor]

Thanks Nehor, what date did Joseph Smith receive the revelation known as the Word of Wisdom? Was that before or after he and Brigham died?

What does "not by commandment" mean to you?

Oh right, not bright. Forgot.

[_The Nehor]

Read Section 1 of the D&C if you wish to know the thoughts of God himself on the matter.

Of course if you are looking for an independent source backing that you will need the Holy Ghost. He will be glad to confirm.

If you are looking to score rhetorical points and think this jackassery is accomplishing this then please continue to humiliate yourself by pretending to be stupid. One day it will stop being an act.

Have a nice day.

woe.. caught you on a bad day. no need to be hate'n. have a good Sabbath.

So no rebuttal? A stupid and transparent condescending dodge is all you have? Okay, it that is the best you can do.

Oh, and I'm having a great day. Thanks for inquiring.

[_jon]

Thanks Nehor, what date did Joseph Smith receive the revelation known as the Word of Wisdom? Was that before or after he and Brigham died?

What does "not by commandment" mean to you?

Oh right, not bright. Forgot.

Okay, because I'm obviously much less bright than you are...

If God gives some direct and specific 'advice' (counselling, strong suggestion) by revelation, what kind of Prophet ignores it?

[_ludwigm]

If priesthood holders were taught latin - as priests of other abominable socalledchristian sects are - then the definition of causa bibendi were widely known.

causa bibendi (the rightful reasons for drinking) :
dies natalis, infirmatis corporis, adventus hospitis, vel alia causa (a birthday, bodily weakness, arrival of a guest, or any other reason)

Germans say "Multae sunt causae bibendi!"
Es gibt viele Gründe um zu trinken! (There are many reason to drink!)


Some people have this wisdom instead:
- strong drinks are for the washing of bodies
- meal only in times of famine

by the way
"Barley for mild drinks" was prophesied correctly.
Was it the motto on the brass of BY's brewery?

[_The Nehor]

Okay, because I'm obviously much less bright than you are...

That's the first step anyways.

If God gives some direct and specific 'advice' (counselling, strong suggestion) by revelation, what kind of Prophet ignores it?

Many of them. Unlike you I do not see prophets as some kind of supermen. You see, I read my scriptures.

Lehi murmured.
Moses took credit for God's miracles.
Captain Moroni had anger issues.
Jonah ran from his responsibilities.
Peter was impulsive and impetuous.
Noah got drunk.

The idea of prophetic perfection is a sectarian notion and is false. It mostly comes from not having interacted with prophets. Prophets are working out their salvation with fear and trembling along with those they lead.