The snake in the garden of eden

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Re: The snake in the garden of eden

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harmony wrote:
There's nothing that says it was an apple either.

We should all be grateful to Eve. Without her being brave enough to stand up to God, they'd still be stuck in the Garden .


Thus, our gratitude should extend to Lucifer. For without him standing up to God, we'd all be stuck singing the same boring hymns in heaven's choir. ;)
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Re: The snake in the garden of eden

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Hoops wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Was just a snake.

There's no biblical evidence that says it was a snake in the first place. Try and know the story before you so smugly dismiss it.


Maybe it was a curelom? They can be tricky little beasts.
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Re: The snake in the garden of eden

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Wraith wrote:
harmony wrote:
There's nothing that says it was an apple either.

We should all be grateful to Eve. Without her being brave enough to stand up to God, they'd still be stuck in the Garden .


Thus, our gratitude should extend to Lucifer. For without him standing up to God, we'd all be stuck singing the same boring hymns in heaven's choir. ;)


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Re: The snake in the garden of eden

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There's nothing that says it was an apple either.
No, there isn't. And...?

We should all be grateful to Eve. Without her being brave enough to stand up to God, they'd still be stuck in the Garden .
Stuck in the garden? Do you know enough about the Garden to make such an evaluation?
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Re: The snake in the garden of eden

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Hoops wrote:
Buffalo wrote:Was just a snake.

There's no biblical evidence that says it was a snake in the first place. Try and know the story before you so smugly dismiss it.


Genesis 3
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1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
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Re: The snake in the garden of eden

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You seem so sure about your atheism Buffalo. You can't really prove that none of this crazy stuff happened either.

The snake usually symbolizes rebirth, eternal life or the eternal round. It is typically a positive or god type symbol.


I find it odd that the ancients could sell a story like that. I believe my intense hatred, fear, and disgust of snakes is hard wired into me evolutionarily. It would have taken a lot of conditioning, inculcation, threats, etc. to have me feel differently, a major uphill battle for the herpephiles for sure.
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Some speculate that the Eden narrative was created in a fashion of "my god is better than your god" when it relegated the snake to the low state that it did. Kind of a coming out of their mother religion. Crush the old and bring in the new.


This may be true in the case of the ancient Greeks whose pantheon and mythology seems strangely to be the reverse (or inverse) of the Judeo-Christian story of the garden, the Fall, and the early generations of the preNoachian prophets and people of God. Their worship seems to advocate the bringing of knowledge via the serpent in the garden of Hesperides and the ascendency of their religion over Jehovah's after the Flood.
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Doesn't the medical world use a snake on the symbol of healing?
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Doesn't the medical world use a snake on the symbol of healing?


A serpent wrapped around a tree (of knowledge of good and evil?).
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Re: The snake in the garden of eden

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ajax18 wrote:You seem so sure about your atheism Buffalo. You can't really prove that none of this crazy stuff happened either.


I can't prove that there aren't Quakers living on the sun. It's about probability.
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