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_bcspace
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by _bcspace » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:38 pm
According to whom?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._Michael ... LDS_Church
Where is the Church's side?
_jon
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by _jon » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:40 pm
bcspace wrote: Where is the Church's side?
Yes, that indeed would be interesting, but I'm thinking you're hoping it's nowhere to be found...
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_Buffalo
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by _Buffalo » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:45 pm
bcspace wrote: Where is the Church's side?
The church doesn't release records from excommunications. So this is all we have.
But it's trustworthy because Quinn is a faithful believer and apologist.
Parley P. Pratt wrote: We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote: There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
_bcspace
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by _bcspace » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:48 pm
The church doesn't release records from excommunications. So this is all we have.
Which means you have nothing.
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by _jon » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:50 pm
bcspace wrote: The church doesn't release records from excommunications. So this is all we have.
Which means you have nothing.
We have an eye witness testimony.
Isn't that the kind of thing Mormon's rely on?
'Church pictures are not always accurate' (The Nehor May 4th 2011) Morality is doing what is right, regardless of what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, regardless of what is right.
_bcspace
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by _bcspace » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:53 pm
We have an eye witness testimony.
No we don't.
_Buffalo
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by _Buffalo » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:04 pm
bcspace wrote: The church doesn't release records from excommunications. So this is all we have.
Which means you have nothing.
On the contrary - we have the testimony of the person to whom it happened! A fervent believer in Mormonism!
Parley P. Pratt wrote: We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote: There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
_Buffalo
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by _Buffalo » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:07 pm
bcspace wrote: We have an eye witness testimony.
No we don't.
You're claiming that Quinn, Mormon apologists, wasn't a witness to his own excommunication?
Parley P. Pratt wrote: We must lie to support brother Joseph, it is our duty to do so.
B.R. McConkie, © Intellectual Reserve wrote: There are those who say that revealed religion and organic evolution can be harmonized. This is both false and devilish.
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by _Nomad » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:25 pm
Among Mormon apologists I'm sure no one (except maybe Quinn himself) considers him to be an apologist. He is a darling of Mormon critics though.
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_bcspace
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by _bcspace » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:37 pm
You're claiming that Quinn, Mormon apologists, wasn't a witness to his own excommunication?
Not in any corraborative sense, no.