Are Mormons plain belly sneetches of the Republican party

[_Jason Bourne]

Welcome to the apostate political litmus test BC space as well as droopy, imposes on the LDS gospel. And this in spite of LDS GAs contestant preaching against a political litmus test. See some of us are just honest about our cafeteria Mormonism.

As for the republican part Mormos should spit in its face, and I am a republican. But the only use this party that is controlled by right Wong fundamentalist Christians has for Mormons is their money. They will cozzie up to Mormons for things like prop 8 then throw us under the bus when some Mormon like Romney shows promise. The LDS church is still fair game for rotten treatment, and maybe some of it is deserved. But the republicans don't love us and the more conservative strain thinks Mormonism is vile.

[_DarkHelmet]

In order to be a Democrat, a Mormon must give up key doctrines and principles or at least look the other way when they are torn down.

It's a good thing there are no Democrats among the GAs.

[_bcspace]

In order to be a Democrat, a Mormon must give up key doctrines and principles or at least look the other way when they are torn down. The GOP doesn't require any such thing.

I couldn't disagree more. The tension between the parties is what is supposed to make the system work (albeit it's not always entirely successful) for the good of the country.

Well sure. Opposition in all things. But that doesn't mean there isn't a good side and a bad side. What it does mean is that because conservatives are keen on preserving liberty and freedom of thought and speech, we tolerate liberals among us. Liberals on the other hand, if they didn't outright kill them Pol Pot style, would ship all conservatives to concentration or re-education camps.

You seem to be advocating for a one-party system by summarily pronouncing that the Democratic party philosophy is opposed to the gospel and thus evil.

I don't advocate for any party. I do advocate against Democrats and anyone to the left of them. They are contrary to the gospel of Jesus Christ (and therefore the LDS Church) is almost every conceivable way.

This is patently not true and represents narrow mindedness at its best.

No, what it means is that my mind isn't so open that my brain falls out. But being more reasonably open-minded, I've put all modern liberal views to the test in comparison with LDS doctrine. They all fail the test. It's as simple as that.

Any thinking person knows that a one-party system (GOP or Democrat) would fail miserably.

I agree.

And what do you do with all the LDS Democrats?

Opposition in all things. Excommunicate them or deny TR unless they repent. Being LDS is an esoteric privilege and they do not meet the requirements as far as their political lives are concerned being in opposition to the Church. However, there is also the notion of allowing the wheat and the tares to grow together which is what is happening now.

When I give a TR interview, I generally don't consider such things because I've not been directed to. However, if someone like Harry Reid or a supporter of planned parenthood for example were in my jurisdiction, I would deny TR.

[_sanjara]

As for the republican part Mormos should spit in its face, and I am a republican. But the only use this party that is controlled by right Wong fundamentalist Christians has for Mormons is their money. They will cozzie up to Mormons for things like prop 8 then throw us under the bus when some Mormon like Romney shows promise. The LDS church is still fair game for rotten treatment, and maybe some of it is deserved. But the republicans don't love us and the more conservative strain thinks Mormonism is vile.

Here here. I think you've hit the nail right on the head!

[_Buffalo]

LOL! Nothing wrong with returning to a state when the Democrats actually had some conservatives (or classical liberals) among them. But I was thinking you might be brave enough to actually identify some policies and positions.......

For example, the right wing attempts to restore prayer in school and to repeal pro-gay marriage laws are examples of reactionary positions.

[_bcspace]

Welcome to the apostate political litmus test BC space

I have imposed no such thing. What UI have proposed is belief and appropriate action regarding the doctrines of the Church.

And this in spite of LDS GAs contestant preaching against a political litmus test.

I have proposed nothing against what the GA's have doctrinally said.

As for the republican part Mormos should spit in its face, and I am a republican.

And lick Obama's feet?

But the only use this party that is controlled by right Wong fundamentalist Christians has for Mormons is their money. They will cozzie up to Mormons for things like prop 8 then throw us under the bus when some Mormon like Romney shows promise. The LDS church is still fair game for rotten treatment, and maybe some of it is deserved. But the republicans don't love us and the more conservative strain thinks Mormonism is vile.

Yet at the end of the day, we have similar goals. The same could not be said of Democrats.

[_bcspace]

For example, the right wing attempts to restore prayer in school and to repeal pro-gay marriage laws are examples of reactionary positions

Define prayer in school. It's always good to return from detrimental and de-evolutionary positions. Just because such laws are in place, doesn't mean they're right or appropriate.

[_Jason Bourne]

Opposition in all things. Excommunicate them or deny TR unless they repent. Being LDS is an esoteric privilege and they do not meet the requirements as far as their political lives are concerned being in opposition to the Church. However, there is also the notion of allowing the wheat and the tares to grow together which is what is happening now.

When I give a TR interview, I generally don't consider such things because I've not been directed to. However, if someone like Harry Reid or a supporter of planned parenthood for example were in my jurisdiction, I would deny TR.

See what I mean. BCs apostate political posturing on display for all to see. He even confesses that he has been directed (presumably by someone in authority over him) to drop to political litmus test. Yet he continues to blather on in his pet (false) dogma that an LDS person who is a democrat is in rebellion against the church. Totally false. Some of the finest LDS leaders I have known are democrats. The embody Christ like attributes far above those I see lacking in BCs spiritual immaturity. I think he should be denied a temple recommend for his hard line approach on this issue. He is in open rebellion of those he claims to sustain.

[_sanjara]

And what do you do with all the LDS Democrats?

Opposition in all things. Excommunicate them or deny TR unless they repent. Being LDS is an esoteric privilege and they do not meet the requirements as far as their political lives are concerned being in opposition to the Church. However, there is also the notion of allowing the wheat and the tares to grow together which is what is happening now.

When I give a TR interview, I generally don't consider such things because I've not been directed to. However, if someone like Harry Reid or a supporter of planned parenthood for example were in my jurisdiction, I would deny TR.

Wow! It find it hard to believe that a fellow LDS member could even say this! Are you sure you're not just saying this for dramatic effect? and you don't really believe it?

[Guest]

See what I mean. BCs apostate political posturing on display for all to see. He even confesses that he has been directed (presumably by someone in authority over him) to drop to political litmus test. Yet he continues to blather on in his pet (false) dogma that an LDS person who is a democrat is in rebellion against the church. Totally false. Some of the finest LDS leaders I have known are democrats. The embody Christ like attributes far above those I see lacking in BCs spiritual immaturity. I think he should be denied a temple recommend for his hard line approach on this issue. He is in open rebellion of those he claims to sustain.

I notice JB is unable to show evidence for his claims.

Wow! It find it hard to believe that a fellow LDS member could even say this! Are you sure you're not just saying this for dramatic effect? and you don't really believe it?

What is wrong with comparing LDS doctrine with one's actions to determine the rightness or wrongness of such? I think even Buffalo would agree that a pro-gay marriage stance is in opposition to the Church. The same holds true with a socialist or entitlement stance or an abortion as a general method of birth control stance.