Question about the Race/Lineage ban.

[_bcspace]

Notice that this does not happen with any of my arguments.

Your arguments don't even work separately, let alone together.

Once again you deny, but give no evidence.

[_Buffalo]

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Once again you deny, but give no evidence.

Every single attempt to harmonize science with scripture contains both:

a gross distortion of scripture/doctrine
a more subtle distortion of science.

Not much of a harmonization.

[_bcspace]

Once again you deny, but give no evidence.

Every single attempt to harmonize science with scripture contains both:

a gross distortion of scripture/doctrine
a more subtle distortion of science.

Not much of a harmonization.

Feel free to give an example and tell us how there is a distortion.

[_Jaybear]

However, we know already that the ban was not racist so my opinion is that, at worst, the Church tried to follow Abraham 1 and the identification of black Africans was to the best of their knowledge.

Fact: Only an ignorant racist would argue that black Africans are the lineal descendants of Cain. Is this racist theory of lineage that allowed Christians to rationalize slavery.

Fact: Only a racist would argue that ban is not racist, by relying a course of reason which is racist.

Fact: BC Space says that the ban was not racist.

Conclusion: BC Space is an ignorant racist.

[_Drifting]

However, we know already that the ban was not racist so my opinion is that, at worst, the Church tried to follow Abraham 1 and the identification of black Africans was to the best of their knowledge.

Fact: Only an ignorant racist would argue that black Africans are the lineal descendants of Cain. Is this racist theory of lineage that allowed Christians to rationalize slavery.

Fact: Only a racist would argue that ban is not racist, by relying a course of reason which is racist.

Fact: BC Space says that the ban was not racist.

Conclusion: BC Space is an ignorant racist.

I think bcspace refuses to accept that his religion was (is?) racist and has produced a framework within which his belief can be protected from the facts that would force him to revise his opinion.

I don't think bcspace is ignorant nor do I think of him as racist.

[_bcspace]

Fact: Only an ignorant racist would argue that black Africans are the lineal descendants of Cain.

How does that fit the definition of racism?

[_Spurven Ten Sing]

However, we know already that the ban was not racist so my opinion is that, at worst, the Church tried to follow Abraham 1 and the identification of black Africans was to the best of their knowledge.

I reject this. Totally.

[_Jaybear]

I think bcspace refuses to accept that his religion was (is?) racist and has produced a framework within which his belief can be protected from the facts that would force him to revise his opinion.

I don't think bcspace is ignorant nor do I think of him as racist.

No rational honest adult with an IQ over 85 can argue that a ban which excluded men and women of the black African race from attending the temple is not racist.

A restriction based on "race" is by definition racist. Even if he believed that members of the black african race trace their lineage to the biblical Cain, which is incredibly ignorant, lineage and race is the same concept.

BC Space would rather insult those of black african descent by suggesting that they are the cursed literal descendant of the biblical Cain, than to accept the fact that his Church, like so many others at one time, had racist policies. I call that racist.

[_Themis]

No rational honest adult with an IQ over 85 can argue that a ban which excluded men and women of the black African race from attending the temple is not racist.

A restriction based on "race" is by definition racist. Even if he believed that members of the black african race trace their lineage to the biblical Cain, which is incredibly ignorant, lineage and race is the same concept.

BC Space would rather insult those of black african descent by suggesting that they are the cursed literal descendant of the biblical Cain, than to accept the fact that his Church, like so many others at one time, had racist policies. I call that racist.

It's clearly a racist doctrine, and only the most biased and stupid member's will defend it as not being racist. It's just one of a few issues Bcspace likes to embarrass himself with.

[_Jaybear]

Fact: Only an ignorant racist would argue that black Africans are the lineal descendants of Cain.

How does that fit the definition of racism?

I am sure you already know that Cain was a murder, who was cursed by God.

I suspect you also know that the belief that blacks are the lineal descendants of Cain emanates from the curse of cain or mark of cain doctrine, and that it was this doctrine that Christians used to rationalize the morality of slavery.