What do you think about HF's big proposal?

[_Shulem]

I'm still disturbed he raped a woman (virgin in this case), and people don't seem to mind.

- VRDRC

Oh, perhaps Joseph minded.



Paul O

[_Shulem]

I've often heard LDS apologists refuse to believe that Heavenly Father was ever a sinner but due to an obscure verse in scripture they tend to assign him as being a Savior on prior world during his mortal existence, hence, he was perfect and always was.

But the odds that Heavenly Father was ever a Savior is highly unlikely. The chances of winning the lottery are a billion times better than ever getting lucky enough to be a Savior of worlds.

I'm afraid that Heavenly Father was a sinner. He likely fornicated and committed all kinds of sexual sins. Then, when he became God he had sex with one of his daughters. Maybe even Heavenly Father had homosexual relations with several men or boys during his test run as a mortal man. Imagine his repentence! For shame!

Paul O

[_KevinSim]

We seem to insist on assigning human emotions and needs to God. Why?

The answer is so we can understand God. If God has emotions and needs that are really foreign to humans, then how in the world can any humans know anything at all about God?

[_Fence Sitter]

We seem to insist on assigning human emotions and needs to God. Why?

The answer is so we can understand God. If God has emotions and needs that are really foreign to humans, then how in the world can any humans know anything at all about God?

How does an omnipotent God have needs?

I believe the universe is full of objects without emotions that are understandable.

[_Shulem]

Elohim proposing to his girlfriend while a mortal man on planet Kolob. Have you had your Grape Nuts today?



Paul O

[_Chap]

We seem to insist on assigning human emotions and needs to God. Why?

The answer is so we can understand God. If God has emotions and needs that are really foreign to humans, then how in the world can any humans know anything at all about God?

Perhaps they can't know anything about 'God', whatever you conceive that term to refer to.

I don't deny that assigning human emotions and needs to 'God' may help people to imagine that they understand 'God'. But if it is the case that 'God' does not have human emotions and needs, then they will be sadly misleading themselves, will they not?

Knowledge does not come through wishful thinking and imagining things.

[_zeezrom]

Perhaps they can't know anything about 'God', whatever you conceive that term to refer to.

Why would that be? Because we are so far away and lack the technology to communicate? Or, because God finds us annoying and remains unapproachable?

I don't deny that assigning human emotions and needs to 'God' may help people to imagine that they understand 'God'. But if it is the case that 'God' does not have human emotions and needs, then they will be sadly misleading themselves, will they not?

Depends on your POV and where your inner thoughts lead you to. Do your imaginings lead you toward unhealthy behavior? Does it lead to healthy behavior?

Knowledge does not come through wishful thinking and imagining things.

Unless you find something unique and useful by imagining things.