Would Joseph Smith be a liberal or conservative?

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Re: Would Joseph Smith be a liberal or conservative?

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bcspace wrote:
Joseph didn't seem to have strong family values, as he pursued relationships with 30 women outside legal marriage. Are you sure you want to pin that position on conservatives?


Plural marriage can be God authorized.


That's fine, but this is about political ideology not religion. If plural marriage is contrary to traditional conservative family values, then it has to go in the liberal column.
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bcspace wrote:Conservative.

No Socialism (LoC forbids it, forbids a comunal lifestyle and common property, and advances capitalism)
Military
Marriage

etc.


Really, bc, aren't you just a little embarrassed by saying this? Law of Consecration?
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bcspace wrote:
Joseph didn't seem to have strong family values, as he pursued relationships with 30 women outside legal marriage. Are you sure you want to pin that position on conservatives?


Plural marriage can be God authorized.


Joseph didn't seem to have strong family values, as he pursued relationships with 30 women outside legal marriage. Are you sure you want to pin that position on conservatives?
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DarkHelmet wrote:That's fine, but this is about political ideology not religion. If plural marriage is contrary to traditional conservative family values, then it has to go in the liberal column.


I'd argue that plural marriage, given its misogynistic nature, doesn't conform to liberal values. It IS conservative, but not American conservative.
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Really, bc, aren't you just a little embarrassed by saying this? Law of Consecration?


Not at all. Those are express teachings in official LDS doctrine regarding the LoC.
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bcspace wrote:
Really, bc, aren't you just a little embarrassed by saying this? Law of Consecration?


Not at all. Those are express teachings in official LDS doctrine regarding the LoC.


What was the reality of practicing the Law of Consecration?
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Re: Would Joseph Smith be a liberal or conservative?

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zeezrom wrote:Liberal:
family values


by the way,

I just wanted to make sure I wasn't misunderstood. I was sort of joking here in two ways. Consider how my friends and family would react to me saying, Joseph Smith was more Democrat-ish for his family values.

I get this from A. assuming we agree that Joseph was a real family values guy and B. Obama has such a beautiful family (seriously) and is a family values guy AND a democrat to boot.

I love it!
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Not at all. Those are express teachings in official LDS doctrine regarding the LoC.

What was the reality of practicing the Law of Consecration?


Ultimately practiced contrary to what Joseph Smith revealed about it.
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