Any ideas for giving a talk on families in church tomorrow?

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Re: Any ideas for giving a talk on families in church tomorr

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bu2b,

Were I assigned to give such a talk (an unlikley event indeed) I would organize it around the theme of "Families First". This is an important concept that used to be taught by the LDS Church, but now more and more seems to have fallen to second place behind pray, pay and obey.

The family unit in which young children are protected and cared for and which older children can count on as an anchor and base as they move out into the world on their own, is absolutely critical to a healthy society.

This can be the traditional family unit, but can also be comprised of people to are willing to take on the various roles that are necessary to accomplish the function of a family in society and to fulfill those roles with mutual love, respect, tolerance, and understanding.

Some of the statements that Church leaders have made about those who leave the Church tend to undermine the the integrity of the family unit.

I would talk about how important it is for Church members to realize that when they are judgmental and show disrespect or even distain for those who have left the Church or become inactive, their actions can serve to damage the family and cause needless harm to others.

I also agree with the earlier suggestion not to quote GAs on this issue. Their revelations on such matters tend to have a short shelf life.

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Re: Any ideas for giving a talk on families in church tomorr

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liz3564 wrote:Have you looked at the Topical Guide for scripture references?


I found this: http://www.LDS.org/scriptures/gs/family?lang=eng

I haven't looked in the topical guide yet though.
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RockSlider wrote:Ceeboo is a member of this internet family. I love Ceeboo. I cycle on my beliefs, and yet I think Ceeboo considers me a brother, in Christ (what is it to be in the adopted family of Christ). Your extended family, friends as you have mentioned ... and forefathers (avoid foremothers of course) all all possible sources of very interesting and inspirational sources.


I also recommend this line of inquiry: you could start with your own biological family and then move on to all the other families you are part of, redefining and enlarging the concept as you move on. You can then end with the idea that we are all family, i.e., God's children.

I think such a talk would have enough tradition in it to satisfy those who want it, but also allow you to express some of your own thinking.
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Re: Any ideas for giving a talk on families in church tomorr

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RockSlider wrote:Ceeboo is a member of this internet family. I love Ceeboo.


I love you too, Rock! :) :)

I cycle on my beliefs, and yet I think Ceeboo considers me a brother, in Christ


Without hesitation, I do indeed! (And have for a long time now)

(what is it to be in the adopted family of Christ). Your extended family, friends as you have mentioned ... and forefathers (avoid foremothers of course) all all possible sources of very interesting and inspirational sources.


Agreed!

Compassion, support, understanding, love, and the simple common courtesy to extend (and indeed create) an enviornment where mutual respect, and a degree of space is required, for us all to truly gain a glimpse into the variety of differing journeys/experiences that our fellow human beings just might be willing to share with/for us on these discussion boards.

Peace,
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Hi.

Don't worry at all about ending before 10 minutes are up. Everyone appreciates brevity.
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zeezrom wrote:Hi.

Don't worry at all about ending before 10 minutes are up. Everyone appreciates brevity.


This is especially appreciated when the church schedule has sacrament meeting last. Sometimes they will let you out early. But when the church schedule has sacrament meeting first usually a member of the bishopric will run out the clock.
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Stormy Waters wrote:
zeezrom wrote:Hi.

Don't worry at all about ending before 10 minutes are up. Everyone appreciates brevity.


This is especially appreciated when the church schedule has sacrament meeting last. Sometimes they will let you out early. But when the church schedule has sacrament meeting first usually a member of the bishopric will run out the clock.

I have seen them run out the clock many times when Sacrament is the last meeting.
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Re: Any ideas for giving a talk on families in church tomorr

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Blixa wrote:
RockSlider wrote:Ceeboo is a member of this internet family. I love Ceeboo. I cycle on my beliefs, and yet I think Ceeboo considers me a brother, in Christ (what is it to be in the adopted family of Christ). Your extended family, friends as you have mentioned ... and forefathers (avoid foremothers of course) all all possible sources of very interesting and inspirational sources.


I also recommend this line of inquiry: you could start with your own biological family and then move on to all the other families you are part of, redefining and enlarging the concept as you move on. You can then end with the idea that we are all family, i.e., God's children.

I think such a talk would have enough tradition in it to satisfy those who want it, but also allow you to express some of your own thinking.


I really, really like that idea. I'm definitely going to incorporate that into my talk somehow. Thanks!

And sacrament meeting is first for me, by the way.
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