Congratulations to JOSEPH ANTLEY for making the news!!

[_zeezrom]

Using "we simply do not know" as the answer for the ban is a rationalization. It is hiding from past mistakes. LDS, own up to a mistake for once, goddamn you. Here - read this: http://www.LDS.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?h ... 94610aRCRD

[_consiglieri]

I want to go on record as giving mega-kudos to young Antley for taking a public stand on this. Way to go!

Jenna's statements sounded a little more wishy-washy, though. If I heard her correctly, she was more embarrassed that the Church's teachings were being read by her friends back in D.C. than in saying she found them personally offensive.

"There's a time and place for everything," she concluded.

Proceed with caution, Antley.

All the Best!

--Consiglieri

[_Fence Sitter]

Proceed with caution, Antley.



--Consiglieri

This x 2. I expect what the Church and BYU want most at this point is for this to die down and the powers that be will not look kindly upon more attention drawn to the issue regardless of the stance.

[_Stormy Waters]

Edit

[_bcspace]

Anyone else think it somewhat strange to watch members protest the statements of a BYU professor, when they are totally consistent with what the church taught for a number of years?

Not really. While there is are doctrinal aspects in Bott's statements, such as God did indeed discriminate (based on lineage) in Priesthood eligibility (remains LDS doctrine), notions like blacks weren't ready are mere speculation.

[_harmony]

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Wow. Profound. Is that a statement on Bott's career?

Juliann says he's going to retire in a few months. Convenient.

[_Bond James Bond]

Dammit. How in the hell can a person find good in a church whose own members gravitate to this for an answer:

"We simply do not know."

This is your open dialogue you ask for? It drives me crazy. God, the only way to enjoy this church must be to go deaf and blind to my surroundings. I can't look at this anymore.

Indeed. If the best position is a neutered uncertain non-position then why defend such a position so absolutely?

[_Willy Law]

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Wow. Profound. Is that a statement on Bott's career?

Juliann says he's going to retire in a few months. Convenient.

Sorry, posted in the wrong thread.

[_Doctor Scratch]

Joseph: next you should alert the media to the fact that the Church pays BYU professors to publish inflammatory articles and smear pieces in the FARMS Review.

[_Blixa]

Using "we simply do not know" as the answer for the ban is a rationalization. It is hiding from past mistakes. LDS, own up to a mistake for once, goddamn you. Here - read this: http://www.LDS.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?h ... 94610aRCRD

I totally understand. That there was no initial revelation was historically established by the time I was a preteen! That it dragged on til 1978 when it could have been handled earlier is bad enough. That in 2011 the response is "We don't know," is beyond discouraging.