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[_DarkHelmet]

The actual facts tell a different story.

You provided no facts. It is your own theory and opinion. The only fact we have is utah is #1 in online porn subscriptions. That is the only fact we have. The story it tells is that residents of Utah download porn at a higher per capita rate than any other state. The excuses you come up with are theories and opinions, not facts.

[Guest]

CFR

How many married Mormon guys would risk a monthly bill from a porn company sending the bill with an innocent named company on the credit card bill? How to explain such a monthly bill every month?

How many married NON-mormon guys would risk a monthly bill from a porn company sending the bill with an innocent named company on the credit card bill? How to explain such a monthly bill every month? Believe it or not, non-mormon wives don't want their men looking at porn either.

[_ldsfaqs]

You do realize 40%-60% is a huge demographic, right?

Yes, 40% is a decent demographic. Active Mormon is really the only pertinent.

So non-mormons in Utah download porn at a higher rate than they do in other states?

Yes, because obviously porn is not available almost at all ANYWHERE in Utah, save a little in Salt Lake itself which has a very small Mormon population. Thus, they get their porn and sex related fixes at a much higher rate than places which have strip clubs and porn shops, mag's etc. on nearly every corner.

They must download at a much, much higher rate to overcome the 40-60% of Mormons who hardly download any porn at all. Outside of Utah, non Mormons make up like 95% of their state's population, and they can't keep up with the 40% of non-mormons in Utah. Weird. Those Utah non-mormons are a bunch of pervs.

You over-simplify. First it's really 60% non-mormon. Second, you misrepresent. The rate is not "hugely" different from other states, it's just the highest. Thus, there is not a "huge" discrepancy. But the reason for the discrepancy is because "sex" is not as easily accessible in other ways as other states. Third..... It's well known that those who rebel or have no interest in Mormonism tend to go to the extreme in morality.

It is also strange that the relatively small percentage of Utahans who are non-mormons can skew the porn stats all the way to the top of the list, but they can't move Utah's ranking of per capita smokers up from #50. They can't move Utah's rank for per capita drinkers up from #50. you would think if they can shoot porn consumption all the way to #1, they could move alcohol and tobacco consumption to at least 49.

You are confused..... Cigarettes and Alcohol are "tangible" objects..... They also are restricted like porn is, hence why the numbers are lower for Utah, because ALL people can't as easily get them. If non-members could get them online, they would and those numbers would be higher.

haa haa..... Perfect example of how you people don't actually THINK....

[_why me]

How many married NON-mormon guys would risk a monthly bill from a porn company sending the bill with an innocent named company on the credit card bill? How to explain such a monthly bill every month? Believe it or not, non-mormon wives don't want their men looking at porn either.

More nonmormons would attempt to get away with it. Men will be men and the interest is there. But for Mormon men, the stakes are high. Mormon men would be more tempted to view free porn sites. Then risk exposure with a credit card.

[_ldsfaqs]

How many married NON-mormon guys would risk a monthly bill from a porn company sending the bill with an innocent named company on the credit card bill? How to explain such a monthly bill every month? Believe it or not, non-mormon wives don't want their men looking at porn either.

More nonmormons would attempt to get away with it. Men will be men and the interest is there. But for Mormon men, the stakes are high. Mormon men would be more tempted to view free porn sites. Then risk exposure with a credit card.

Correctly said Why Me..... There is plenty of free porn out there. Nearly ALL Mormon men who "might" view porn, they would view the free stuff, not the pay stuff.

So, that is another FACT which debunks the claim that the viewing of Online Pay Porn in Utah being high means Mormons are doing it.

by the way..... I know this for a fact because in my youthful active/inactive past that's what I did. Why pay for something that can be viewed for free?

[_DarkHelmet]

You do realize 40%-60% is a huge demographic, right?

Yes, 40% is a decent demographic. Active Mormon is really the only pertinent.

So non-mormons in Utah download porn at a higher rate than they do in other states?

Yes, because obviously porn is not available almost at all ANYWHERE in Utah, save a little in Salt Lake itself which has a very small Mormon population. Thus, they get their porn and sex related fixes at a much higher rate than places which have strip clubs and porn shops, mag's etc. on nearly every corner.

This isn't the 80s anymore. Nobody buys porn from a retail shop. Porn has moved almost exclusively to the Internet. Even if you're one of those Utah non-mormon super-pervs, why would you go downtown and buy a porn DVD from a porn shop for $10, when you can get a monthly supscription to a porn site for much less, or better yet, just look at free porn online? Even non-mormons would rather get porn in the privacy of their home. The brick and mortar porn shops are dead, and have been for a long time. Internet porn is where it is at. The lack of retail porn shops selling physical porn objects might be a small reason, but not enough to shoot utah to the top. I would still expect a wholesome state like Utah to be near the bottom even with that reason.

They must download at a much, much higher rate to overcome the 40-60% of Mormons who hardly download any porn at all. Outside of Utah, non Mormons make up like 95% of their state's population, and they can't keep up with the 40% of non-mormons in Utah. Weird. Those Utah non-mormons are a bunch of pervs.

You over-simplify. First it's really 60% non-mormon. Second, you misrepresent. The rate is not "hugely" different from other states, it's just the highest. Thus, there is not a "huge" discrepancy. But the reason for the discrepancy is because "sex" is not as easily accessible in other ways as other states. Third..... It's well known that those who rebel or have no interest in Mormonism tend to go to the extreme in morality.

LOL. It may be well known to you, but that doesn't make it true. Why would living amongst Mormons turn someone into an extreme porn downloading super perv?

It is also strange that the relatively small percentage of Utahans who are non-mormons can skew the porn stats all the way to the top of the list, but they can't move Utah's ranking of per capita smokers up from #50. They can't move Utah's rank for per capita drinkers up from #50. you would think if they can shoot porn consumption all the way to #1, they could move alcohol and tobacco consumption to at least 49.

You are confused..... Cigarettes and Alcohol are "tangible" objects..... They also are restricted like porn is, hence why the numbers are lower for Utah, because ALL people can't as easily get them. If non-members could get them online, they would and those numbers would be higher.

So you can't find cigarettes or alcohol anywhere in Utah? I think you're making that up. I've seen cigarettes and alcohol on the shelves in grocery stores in Utah. The non-mormons who are surrounded by Mormonism, and thus (according to you) must now go overboard in their immorality won't have a hard time finding their alcohol and cigarettes and shooting Utah up to the top of the list. They don't need to buy them online, lol. They can get them at the grocery store.

haa haa..... Perfect example of how you people don't actually THINK....

*patting you on the head* Yep, you really got me there.

[_DarkHelmet]

How many married NON-mormon guys would risk a monthly bill from a porn company sending the bill with an innocent named company on the credit card bill? How to explain such a monthly bill every month? Believe it or not, non-mormon wives don't want their men looking at porn either.

More nonmormons would attempt to get away with it. Men will be men and the interest is there. But for Mormon men, the stakes are high. Mormon men would be more tempted to view free porn sites. Then risk exposure with a credit card.

Maybe so, but most men, Mormon or not, won't want their wives finding out they're buying porn. There are plenty of ways to pay for online porn without your wife knowing. Paypal is one way. And how many wives even know or care what was charged to the credit card? Most statements are paperless. You can get a credit card with paperless statement sent to your work email and the chance of your wife finding out you paid for a subscription are small.

[_Equality]

Watching ldsfaqs and whyme exchange ignorances on this thread has been entertaining. Are they living in 1994? Too funny.

[Guest]

I think there is some truth to the idea that sexual suppression can cause unhealthy outlets and unhealthy secrets. We had a lesson on porn two weeks ago in the elders quorum. The comments were filled with sensational, worst case scenario descriptions about the effects of porn. If the church was my only source of information on porn I would think that witnessing nudity and sex acts will cause you to become a pedophile, gay, a rapist or some other sexual deviant. I don't think porn has this effect on most viewers.

I think if a person feels excessively guilty about porn and his/her family and friends tend to be excessively judgmental about the use of porn then we are going to have a bigger problem with secrets and also addictions.

If Utah does have more homes with computers that would also be a reason why we have more porn downloads here than anywhere else.

[_zeezrom]

Did anyone ever (in TBM days) wonder of any GA looked at porn?