Do Mormons believe God literaly had sex with Mary?

[_DarkHelmet]

The bigger question is if Mary gave god a blowjob. If the bishop is going to ask about oral sex, so am I.

[_Buffalo]

Technically, originally the doctrine was that Adam (our God) boinked Mary.

So Mormons do not believe in a virgin birth of Jesus, right? He was sired in the same 'dirty' way the rest of us were, right?

Well, lots of Mormons in the past (starting with Young) did not believe that Mary was a virgin. But I think the God boinking Mary idea is no longer mainstream belief.

[_Yoda]

This is actually a really interesting subject. I started another thread on this a few years ago in the Celestial Forum.

Apparently, the word, "virgin", has a different meaning in Hebrew. It simply means "young girl". It does not have reference to being sexually chaste at all.

There is a book I read years ago by a researcher named Michael Erikson...I will see if I can find it. It was fascinating. His view was that Jesus was simply the son of Joseph and Mary. They basically had sex during the Betrothal period. When the pregnancy was discovered, rather than having Mary "put away", as would be custom in Jewish law, he married her.

I will see if I can find the specific references. It has been at least 10 years since I read that book. I will have to go hunting for it.

[_Hades]

Actually semen replaces all the blood. That's the life-giving substance spoken of by Elder Packer, and that's what allows resurrected bodies to live forever.

That must give a whole new meaning to "full body orgasm".

[_Yoda]

Actually semen replaces all the blood. That's the life-giving substance spoken of by Elder Packer, and that's what allows resurrected bodies to live forever.

That must give a whole new meaning to "full body orgasm".

LOL!

That must be why women can have several orgasms while men can only have one!

[Guest]

if I remember correctly part of BY's teachings on Adam-God is that Mary is one of the plural wives of Adam.

[_Equality]

What a great thread for Jesus' birthday. And death day! Happy birthday Jesus! Or is this one of those things that we don't know if they teach anymore?

I will say in defense of the Mormons on this one that it always amuses me when Christians get their panties in a wad over these theological differences, as if the Mormon idea of God damned Mary is just wild and crazy but the idea of the Holy Ghost "overshadowing" a "virgin" and making her pregnant with a half-man, half-God (or, if you prefer, an all-man and all-God at the same time, mysteriously) just makes eminent sense by comparison.

[Guest]

Tying this in with my direct descendant of Jesus thread... At what point is the god in a progeny of Jesus so watered down that he is no longer able to overcome death?

Were Jesus' quarter god offspring no longer divine?

Better to be a demi-god under Greek rules then.. At least these guys got to star in epic tales of daring do.

[_Tobin]

I really wish the TBMs would chime in. This is a terrible doctrine and one I've heard many of them state matter-of-factly. I've tried to help gdemetz see that it isn't taught in the Old Testament, New Testament, or Book of Mormon; but he dismisses all of that and sticks with the God-had-sex-with-Mary line that Brigham Young taught. The problem I have with many Mormons is once a false doctrine like this gets taught and accepted by many of them, they can't seem to fix themselves and are perfectly willing to accept the ludicrous consequences that such a doctrine imply.

[_SteelHead]

Tobin,
The difficulty for the believer becomes then: which prophets were speaking as a prophet and which was as man. If we throw out teachings of BY do when then throw out the Book of Abraham? The Book of Mormon? It becomes a rabbit hole with no end escalated by the teachings that the prophet can not lead the church astray. If BY was wrong on Adam-God, then was he actually the true successor to Joseph Smith? Were the rlds actually correct, the flds?