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_Shulem
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Re: Daniel Peterson my sincerest condolences on your recent

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Drifting wrote:No need to be sad, it's all part of the plan...

DEATH, PHYSICAL
Death, Physical
Physical death is the separation of the spirit from the mortal body. The Fall of Adam brought physical death into the world (see Moses 6:48). Because of the Atonement and Resurrection of Jesus Christ, all mankind will be resurrected and redeemed from physical death.

Additional Information
Death is an essential part of Heavenly Father's plan of salvation (see 2 Nephi 9:6). In order to become like our Eternal Father, we must experience death and later receive perfect, resurrected bodies.

When the physical body dies, the spirit continues to live. In the spirit world, the spirits of the righteous “are received into a state of happiness, which is called paradise, a state of rest, a state of peace, where they shall rest from all their troubles and from all care, and sorrow” (Alma 40:12). A place called spirit prison is reserved for “those who [have] died in their sins, without a knowledge of the truth, or in transgression, having rejected the prophets” (D&C 138:32). The spirits in prison are “taught faith in God, repentance from sin, vicarious baptism for the remission of sins, the gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands, and all other principles of the gospel that [are] necessary for them to know” (D&C 138:33-34). If they accept the principles of the gospel, repent of their sins, and accept ordinances performed in their behalf in temples, they will be welcomed into paradise.

Because of the Atonement and Resurrection of Jesus Christ, physical death is only temporary: “As in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive” (1 Corinthians 15:22). Everyone will be resurrected, meaning that every person's spirit will be reunited with his or her body—“restored to their proper and perfect frame” and no longer subject to death (Alma 40:23; see also Alma 11:44-45). (LDS.org)


OK, I don't mean to derail the thread but I wish the LDS church leaders would offer up a detailed Explanation regarding the Explanations of Facsimile No. 3. They talk about death but say nothing about their proposed translations of Egyptian.

Just saying.

:rolleyes:

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Re: Daniel Peterson my sincerest condolences on your recent

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To quote Joseph Smith himself...

“You mourners have occasion to rejoice, speaking of the death of {DCP's brother}; for {he} is gone to wait until the resurrection of the dead—until the perfection of the remainder; for at the resurrection your friend will rise in perfect felicity and go to celestial glory. …

“I am authorized to say, by the authority of the Holy Ghost, that you have no occasion to fear; for he is gone to the home of the just. Don’t mourn, don’t weep. I know it by the testimony of the Holy Ghost that is within me; and you may wait for your friends to come forth to meet you in the morn of the celestial world. …
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Re: Daniel Peterson my sincerest condolences on your recent

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I believe he posted about this on his blog a couple of months ago. As I recall, his story about it concluded with him and his family going to eat enormous pastrami sandwiches and huge plates of french fries. And of course it's always very sad when a loved one dies. All best wishes in this regard, Dr. P.
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stemelbow wrote:
Buffalo wrote:That's sad, but I'm not sure why hundreds of people now know about it.


'Tis sad. It is known because John posted a private email, normally a huge offense here, that DCP wrote to John.


Really? I thought DCP himself offered the information up.

DCP wrote:He first contacted me regarding this matter at roughly 10 PM on Sunday, 25 March. I was away lecturing on the east coast, was armed only with an iPhone, and was not in especially good spirits, as my only sibling, my older brother (with whom I was very close), had died unexpectedly and suddenly two days before.
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Re: Daniel Peterson my sincerest condolences on your recent

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stemelbow wrote:
Buffalo wrote:That's sad, but I'm not sure why hundreds of people now know about it.


'Tis sad. It is known because John posted a private email, normally a huge offense here, that DCP wrote to John.


It is known because Dan Peterson blogged about it and posted the link over on MD&D:

http://dcpsicetnon.blogspot.ca/2012/03/ ... -2012.html

His brother died 6 weeks ago. While sad, he seems to have been able to manage the grief as evidenced by his 127 blog posts since his death and numerous message board posts.

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Re: Daniel Peterson my sincerest condolences on your recent

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I am sorry to hear of the death of any human being, or of anyone losing a relation to death.

But I must be odd. If one of my relations happened to die, I can't see myself bringing the fact into my professional life. Why would one do that? The private circle of one's friends and family is of course another matter altogether.
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Re: Daniel Peterson my sincerest condolences on your recent

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LDSToronto wrote:His brother died 6 weeks ago. While sad, he seems to have been able to manage the grief as evidenced by his 127 blog posts since his death and numerous message board posts.

Eh. Sometimes blogging is grief management. Certainly helped me after my mother passed away.

If you do happen to click on this thread, Dan, please know that I am very sorry for your loss.
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Re: Daniel Peterson my sincerest condolences on your recent

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LDSToronto wrote:It is known because Dan Peterson blogged about it and posted the link over on MD&D:

http://dcpsicetnon.blogspot.ca/2012/03/ ... -2012.html

His brother died 6 weeks ago. While sad, he seems to have been able to manage the grief as evidenced by his 127 blog posts since his death and numerous message board posts.

H.


It seems to me most people here didn't know about until the private email was posted. Suddenly a bunch of condolences (which was a nice break from the hostility that has since gone away again) went out. Buffalo asked why so many people know about it. I answered his question.

Anyway, counting how many blog posts put out may not say much about managing the grief.
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Re: Daniel Peterson my sincerest condolences on your recent

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Chap wrote:I am sorry to hear of the death of any human being, or of anyone losing a relation to death.

But I must be odd. If one of my relations happened to die, I can't see myself bringing the fact into my professional life. Why would one do that? The private circle of one's friends and family is of course another matter altogether.


Yeah yeah, we're all different. Just let it go. It doesn't matter why he mentioned it, ever. It happened.
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