The Reverend's Sabbath Sermon

[_Kishkumen]

Sorry to see you being the scape goat for all of the hostilities of late.

Your a good man and I appreciate your good heart.

Thanks, Rockslider. I would rather be at Red Iguana with friends, but such is life.

[_LDSToronto]

Reverend, I often forget myself in the heat of battle. Thank you for reminding me that not all of Rome has to burn. Or Greece.

H.

[_Kishkumen]

Reverend, I often forget myself in the heat of battle. Thank you for reminding me that not all of Rome has to burn. Or Greece.

H.

Hey, LDST. Thanks for the kind words. Every once in a while, the Reverend gets the urge to preach, so he dips into the "Good Books" and finds wisdom there to share with his friends or any patient reader who cares to reflect on the message.

[_beastie]

I have a book recommendation for anyone interested in the phenomenon of good, decent people demonizing one another based on differences in beliefs (mainly religious and political): The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion, by Jonathan Haidt.

I just recently finished it, and it has gone a long way in helping me understand this part of human nature, and how to deal with it. I've been wanting to post a summary/review of it on the board, but real life has been making too many demands for me to do so right now.

by the way, I'd bet good money the author of the email was Will. I understand you won't confirm it, but it certainly screams of him. Between you and Will, I'd guess that Will is more culpable in what has happened to DCP than you are, by a long shot.

[_Kishkumen]

by the way, I'd bet good money the author of the email was Will. I understand you won't confirm it, but it certainly screams of him. Between you and Will, I'd guess that Will is more culpable in what has happened to DCP than you are, by a long shot.

I will confirm to you that the author was not Will. That is the last I will say about the identity of the author.

What this incident (the whole thing from the hullabaloo surrounding the unpublished Dehlin review to the present) shows me is the degree to which Will's repugnant attitudes about certain matters are well represented among the other apologists. That much is very depressing.

[_beastie]

I will confirm to you that the author was not Will. That is the last I will say about the identity of the author.

What this incident (the whole thing from the hullabaloo surrounding the unpublished Dehlin review to the present) shows me is the degree to which Will's repugnant attitudes about certain matters are well represented among the other apologists. That much is very depressing.

Depressing, but not unexpected. We shouldn't let the liberal attitudes of some LDS make us forget that the baseline towards "apostates" by LDS leaders has generally been demonization.

[_Kishkumen]

Depressing, but not unexpected. We shouldn't let the liberal attitudes of some LDS make us forget that the baseline towards "apostates" by LDS leaders has generally been demonization.

Well, there is a long history there to be sure. When the Church feels less like an embattled minority sect, it may deal less harshly with questioning members.

[_sock puppet]

It seems to be quite human.

Do you want the Miami Heat or the OKC Thunder in the NBA Finals?

Quite human, indeed. Until there are no humans to be.

You know, I lost interest in sports 20 years ago. I don't defend that. I can't explain it.

Maybe I should have tried harder.

Well, I'm sure you know what Marcus Aurelius had to say about it. (My interest in sports waned about 20 years ago too.)

[_Kishkumen]

Well, I'm sure you know what Marcus Aurelius had to say about it. (My interest in sports waned about 20 years ago too.)

Ah, Marcus. I really like that guy. No wonder Julian viewed him as a saint.

[_Doctor Scratch]

I am also told about how wrong I am, and that the LDS folk who have been criticized by apologists were merely being called out for what they "really are." They may appear to be decent people, but they hide behind a nominal membership in the Church waiting to destroy the testimonies of others and evade punishment for their damnable crimes. These bad eggs are outed so that innocent members will not be deceived. Who am I to criticize this important work and misrepresent it?

It's remarkable that an apologist would ever actually say this, openly.