Tobin wrote:Well, until they die and have to make an account for themselves and why they turned their back on the Lord.
What will they have to account for, Tobin? You're always saying how the only people who should be expected to conform to Mormonism's absurd requirements are those to whom God has personally appeared and instructed. Now you are saying that those who never received such and who left the church will be held to account for turning their backs on the Lord. Consistency is not your strong suit, is it?
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Tobin wrote:Well, until they die and have to make an account for themselves and why they turned their back on the Lord.
What will they have to account for, Tobin? You're always saying how the only people who should be expected to conform to Mormonism's absurd requirements are those to whom God has personally appeared and instructed. Now you are saying that those who never received such and who left the church will be held to account for turning their backs on the Lord. Consistency is not your strong suit, is it?
And if they can honestly say they made every effort to seek and do as the Lord commands, then they should be able to justify themselves. Giving an account of yourself is an interview, the judgements of God are solely at the discretion of God and not up to me. Clearly, reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
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"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:... Clearly, reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
No, he read you just fine. Then you read his post, and tried to weasel out of what you clearly meant.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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Well, until they die and have to make an account for themselves and why they turned their back on the Lord.
Oh, yeah, that could happen
The person who is certain and who claims divine warrant for his certainty belongs now to the infancy of our species. Christopher Hitchens
Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions. Frater
And if they can honestly say they made every effort to seek and do as the Lord commands, then they should be able to justify themselves. Giving an account of yourself is an interview, the judgements of God are solely at the discretion of God and not up to me. Clearly, reading comprehension is not your strong suit.[/quote]
There is no need for salvation because there never was condemnation.
The person who is certain and who claims divine warrant for his certainty belongs now to the infancy of our species. Christopher Hitchens
Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions. Frater
Tobin wrote:And if they can honestly say they made every effort to seek and do as the Lord commands, then they should be able to justify themselves. Giving an account of yourself is an interview, the judgements of God are solely at the discretion of God and not up to me. Clearly, reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
There is no need for salvation because there never was condemnation.
If you lead others astray and cause them to sin and suffer as a result, that is pretty damning condemnation.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Tobin wrote:If you lead others astray and cause them to sin and suffer as a result, that is pretty damning condemnation.
So stop doing it, then.
Inviting people to seek and speak with God and do as he asks is not leading them astray. Doing anything but that IS!!!
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
Inviting people to seek and speak with God and do as he asks is not leading them astray. Doing anything but that IS!!![/quote]
The God you speak of is an ego construct. The only power it has is the power you give it. You're wasting your own time and trying to waste others' time with this nonsense.
The person who is certain and who claims divine warrant for his certainty belongs now to the infancy of our species. Christopher Hitchens
Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions. Frater
Tobin wrote:Inviting people to seek and speak with God and do as he asks is not leading them astray. Doing anything but that IS!!!
The God you speak of is an ego construct. The only power it has is the power you give it. You're wasting your own time and trying to waste others' time with this nonsense.
So speaks an anti-christ.
"You lack vision, but I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night.... Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." -- Judge Doom
