Does Boasting Inflated Member Growth Numbers Abroad...

[_sock puppet]

So, it seems many have posted that they think that the Brethren's inflated member growth number abroad helps existing members keep paying tithing.

The legal definition of fraud (simplistically stated) is making a knowing misrepresentation in order to deprive another, who reasonably relies on the misrepresentation, of his property. The Brethren are on the brink of this, if they have not already crossed that line. Isn't it marvelous? Isn't it wonderful?

[_zeezrom]

The legal definition of fraud (simplistically stated) is making a knowing misrepresentation in order to deprive another, who reasonably relies on the misrepresentation, of his property. The Brethren are on the brink of this, if they have not already crossed that line. Isn't it marvelous? Isn't it wonderful?

Is there a legal term for unkowingly misleading people even though you should know better?

Maybe it really is true that the Brethren only stick to the scriptures and the Ensign. My good friend asked his FIL GA about Fanny Alger etc and the man replied, "I stick to the basics: the scriptures and the Ensign."

So, maybe these guys really are totally clueless and stay that way on purpose. What is the legal term for that behavior?

[Guest]

Two words:

Plausible deniability.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F69dzy__Ao8

[_Cicero]

The legal definition of fraud (simplistically stated) is making a knowing misrepresentation in order to deprive another, who reasonably relies on the misrepresentation, of his property. The Brethren are on the brink of this, if they have not already crossed that line. Isn't it marvelous? Isn't it wonderful?

Is there a legal term for unkowingly misleading people even though you should know better?

Maybe it really is true that the Brethren only stick to the scriptures and the Ensign. My good friend asked his FIL GA about Fanny Alger etc and the man replied, "I stick to the basics: the scriptures and the Ensign."

So, maybe these guys really are totally clueless and stay that way on purpose. What is the legal term for that behavior?

What the GA said doesn't surprise me at all. GAs are too busy to learn about all that "anti-Mormon crap." They're more than happy to let the apologists deal with it. I would say that behavior could be called a reckless disregard for the truth, which is usually an element for proving libel or defamation rather than fraud.

[_Juggler Vain]

The legal definition of fraud (simplistically stated) is making a knowing misrepresentation in order to deprive another, who reasonably relies on the misrepresentation, of his property. The Brethren are on the brink of this, if they have not already crossed that line. Isn't it marvelous? Isn't it wonderful?

Is there a legal term for unkowingly misleading people even though you should know better?

Negligent misrepresentation.

-JV

[_Drifting]

So the 14th Article of faith, whilst unwritten, is clearly....

14. We believe in negligent misrepresentation.

[_sock puppet]

The legal definition of fraud (simplistically stated) is making a knowing misrepresentation in order to deprive another, who reasonably relies on the misrepresentation, of his property. The Brethren are on the brink of this, if they have not already crossed that line. Isn't it marvelous? Isn't it wonderful?

Is there a legal term for unkowingly misleading people even though you should know better?

Maybe it really is true that the Brethren only stick to the scriptures and the Ensign. My good friend asked his FIL GA about Fanny Alger etc and the man replied, "I stick to the basics: the scriptures and the Ensign."

So, maybe these guys really are totally clueless and stay that way on purpose. What is the legal term for that behavior?

'wreckless disregard for the truth'? 'Intentional ignorance'?

[_sock puppet]

ignorantia juris non excusat ("ignorance of the law does not excuse")

When someone 'bears testimony' that something is true, when they do not know that it is--well, if in a court, under oath, that's perjury. But of course, if the religious context is as important if not more so (your eternal salvation hangs in the balance, right?), it's okay to do so if necessary to get you to give 10% to "the Church", right?